Birthday memorial for Morgan

Is S Jones here? I'm taking all of my posts to The C'Ville Weekly's website. I don't like how readthehook.com keeps shutting down discussions here!

"Janie" is pretty obviously not really an incoming freshman. That still leaves the question of which of the other posters it is, but the writing style makes that pretty easy to spot too. I've been messing around with some open source stylometric analysis software and using posts from Hook articles as data. Individual posts tend to be short, but some posters have left a huge volume of text none-the-less. Some surprising and pretty funny preliminary results. I'll be keeping that to myself though. Wouldn't want to be the local party pooper and I'm no expert in the field anyway. It's relatively easy to do if you just gotta know.

Never thought I'd put this all in one sentence...but...Way to go Kenny, Campy, Ariaes and SJones!

Why is everyone so sure that this monster had to have known the location where her body was found. It would be so simple for someone to pull up Google maps or something like that(complete with topographical information...i.e. streams, hills etc.) to find a remote location to do what he did.

I agree with Jean, I think this guy is smart, calculating to a fault, and EVIL.

To Janie: the media and public are fascinated with the murders of Morgan Dana Harrington and Yeardley Love. The reports about murders of some people get good TV ratings for various reasons. I'm sure you can google both names and figure out why. Harrington was from an affluent background and Love was a college athlete. One reason that Love isn't talked about all of the time is that there's a $150,000 reward offered for the capture of the killer of Harrington.

Jean, you missed your calling.. you would make a great P.I. ... interesting posts

Blue Skies

Just for the record, I do not have a problem with your opinions about this case. I read many forums on Morgan, and would say I actually am in agreement with your views more than not. Never the less, when it comes to some posts your sarcasm obscures your point. It seems you no longer have an opinion about the case only the person. I have no idea who Kenny is, and certainly am not a fan of anyone on these forums, that is not what this is about. My opinion only---it gets a little hostile, and it shouldn't be that way. We are all after the same thing -- finding justice for Morgan. Right? The tone of the comments here can get pretty unpleasant at times, and that just isn't necessary to make a point, share an opinion, or question a comment. Having said more than intended, I will go back to "reading only"

SJones, LOL...there was no question, just a positive comment. Its ok... Anyway, staying positive here, please everyone take a look at Gil's blog. You can read it at fm or on the fb page. This is a perfect example of what positive is...On Morgan's birthday, her car was given to better someone else's life.
Taking this break from the forum has given me the freedom to focus on some different aspects of this case. The golf tournament which raised money for OMNI International, the positive activities on her birthday, which by the way, includes three UVA students and their father who insisted on changing my flat tire in 100 degrees plus Charlottesville weather. Alot of negative happens in this dysfunctional world and there are some not so nice people out there, but we learn to regognize the good amongst the bad and try to make a positive out of a negative. None of us is perfect, but most of us aren't all bad either.

SJones, Your comment to me, "I never believe in pilling on, so please do not put it the group that way". Not sure what you meant by it. I was simply saying that each of the four of you had said something I agreed with. That's all. Next time I'll write four separate messages...or after the day I have had, none at all.

Point taken SJones. Just get tired of seeing some get targeted for having a difference of opinion however it doesn't need to be aired here.

Morgan stands alone for who and what she was and I see that and her as positive. Her murder is atrocious and someone will pay.

So I'm done with commenting here.

Blue Skies, I don't have a fan club nor do I want one. Nor do I care if you like my style or not. Like you said we are all different. We have a unique style as how we say or word things and that's just the way I happen to speak. SJones is correct, I do wear my heart on my sleeve. Have always been that way when something is important to me. This family happens to be very important to me. Anything that is written on a public forum will not change the way I feel or what I may or may not do. I appreciate the fact we live in a country that we are able to speak freely as you and I did today.

I do not know what the "New Moon" situation refers to.

Yes, crime sells newspapers and gets hits on newspaper web sites.

If this dark-skinned looking man did kill Morgan Dana Harrington, wouldn't he still be in the Virginia-Fairfax area? With the job market as bad as it is, a person can't as easily be moving from job to job as they might have 10 years-ago.

Completely disagree with you, James... I feel it is most important to keep Morgan's name front and center. Not only is this therapeutic for the family and friends, it is critical for keeping law enforcement, University and public service agencies mindful of the real danger in this community. The lapse in oversight of "security" for our citizens has been just one important aspect brought to light through this case. If we were to stop talking about it, there may be no further steps taken to prevent this tragedy from happening to another family.

How will we feel about apathy when the next victim is struck?

I understand why the family is doing what they do, and releasing 21 balloons with the composite sketch of the guy who was linked to her case via forensic evidence from the Fairfax case is a neat idea in my opinion (providing of course that authorities are not mistaken in interpreting the forensic evidence, whatever that evidence actually was). The only thing that makes me pause is the continued focus on Copeley Bridge. There is no definitive proof that Morgan was ever in fact hitch hiking on that bridge, or that it really was the last place where she was sighted. She may never have been there at all. So that's the only thing that gives me pause, it the continued focus on Copeley Bridge, and choosing to make a scene on that bridge.

I am not sure why people think that cameras at stoplights are more like video cameras. A camera at a stoplight is only used to detect vehicles so that they will give a green light to the direction a car is waiting. The only place that I know in Virginia that Red light cameras are allowed to record people running redlights, is Northern Virginia. Each locality has to be approved to install redlight cameras.

I think everyone needs to look forward and not backwards. We are here for the Harringtons and Morgan, we need to find her killer(s) and put the to justice.I think it is great that people all over the world are interested in Morgans case The only people that feel of bad energy are negative people.Let us all look forward and see what we can do to put this monster where he belongs,behind bars and sentence him to a lifetime of misery, so that the first thing he thinks of when he wakes up and the last thought to enter his mind before he goes to sleep is, what he did to Morgan,and that he did NOT get away with it .Justice was served once and for all

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I think the reason Morgan Harrington gets more coverage than yeardley love is because Yeardley's killer's been caught. Morgan's case is in progress and that means many poeple like yourselves and myself are drawn to the ongoing drama surrounding any major crime. Some of us feel deeply for Morgan because we are human and she did not deserve what happened to her and our heart goes out to her and her family. The only people that annoy me are those that critise the family or friends of the family for keeping morgan's memory alive and keeping her case in the public eye. It is the police themselves who have determined that they need the public to solve this case. They are waiting for that one call, well keeping it in the public eye could lead to that. Why do people who are in disagreement with this evn come on this page anyway. why do you read the articls you are so upset over. I just wish people could be supportive of those suffering a loss of a family member or friend or whatever the case may be and just be thankful that Morgan is not your daughter, sister, girlfriend and you are not the one suffering the heartache. I cannot tell you why I feel so deeply for Morgan instaed of 50 other mudered victims although I do feel for Vanessa pham as well. She seemed a bright fun girl who loved life. The fact though that I am from another country, says something about Morgan, for she has grabbed my attention and I feel a little down each day because she was murdered and because her killer remains free. Please people just pray this dos not happen to you and try and be human and understand what the harringtons are going through. there is not right or wrong way to handle a situation like this for any parent. sorry for any misplet words or typing problems I am hopeless like that and please understand I mean well in my comments even if it appears I am direcing anger in a certain direction.

So many people are to blame for what happened to her and for her killer(s) not being caught. For starters, JPJ should have cameras in all areas outside the building. All traffic lights should have cameras. Her friends should have checked on her and not been so involved in the concert that they didn’t care enough to go look for her. Morgan should not have been drinking as she was underage.
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And there should be cameras monitoring the cameras!

Woah! are there people saying they want more cameras up at stop lights and all over the city for "safety"? In my opinion, that is taking it too far...and let's face it the city doesn;t care how safe we are, they just want to milk money out of the people every chance they get.
I know that having constant surveillence would help to solve horrific crimes, but it is ridiculous to subject innocent people to a police surveillance state because of a few bad apples out there.I am tired of hearing safety as an excuse for a big fine that comes in the mail when I make a turn at a yellow light, that became red while sitting IN the intersection!

I drive safely, sure ever now and then I speed, but I don't need or want constant supervision. I refuse to allow the scum of the earth who commit these crimes to turn us into a nanny state!

If people were punished correctly, even at the first crime they commit, I have a feeling a lot less crimes would be committed. Think about it, most minor crimes are given a fine, community service, or a slap on the wrist with a suspended sentence. If punishable crimes were actually PUNISHED, people would not reoffend--and they certainly wouldn't be emboldened to move onto violent crimes.

If we want to live free, without cameras and constant surveillence, we need to start with a tougher legal system.

Interesting notion, Ireadthehook. I hadn't thought of that. Maybe it's true for some (e.g. Blink and her Insane Crime Posse Development Group), but some of the armchair internet detectives seem so into it that they would pay for a chance to review hours of JPJ security video or the like.

And why isn't Mr. Bass eligible for a portion of the money? The only developments in the case have come from him and the student who found the t-shirt.

He talked Elvis'uncle Vester's ear off. Closed a show for Ronnie Mc Dowell and got his 15 minutes. I didn't know this much about my husband when I married him. Maybe he's going through forum withdrawal.

Fed-up w/ Blue Skies

Come on--you guys are big boys, Yes? If you don't like what is being said on FM, then why are you going there. Seems like you just like to make fun of others. Wonder how you would react if people began dissecting your comments????

What I find intresting reading these comments is that there appears to be so many posters here crtical of Morgan's forums and facebook and the people who post there. Yet in the next sentence admit they have been to the forum or been to fb and read there themslves. Then they're also here rading articles on Mongarn. They are just as obsessed with morgan's case as those they criticise.

people say this is a free country.That mean they are allowed to come here and be negative and question why people are here.Morgan has been murdered,it is a free country so the murderer thought, why not?!Gil and Dan has every right to try to get Morgans case in the media and newspapers.What would you do if you lost a loved one,sit around and twiddle your thumbs ??How can one not understand what they are going through

Okay: I am /You are wrong/. I wrote under that name for Mr Jones to defend him and thought if I wrote under my real name people would think I was just being nice and standing up for him because he is my friend and has made himself a friend to me in a new town. So I will take criticism from whomever wants to give it to me. Sorry. But I stand by what I said.

i wonder what time they or him dropped Morgans body there,I mean are there lights there at the farm entrance I don't think so,how would the perp know where he was driving if it was dark?Unless he put on high beams,which could attract attention

sad. but agree, we need to stop with the weekly PR blitz. Her parents are entitled to do whatever they want, but it will start to look bad shortly. the police will continue to work the case, they dont need weekly press events and poems to do their job.

someone above commented these events help keep the university focused? on what? they dont investigate crimes and its silly to continue to try to tie UVA or the JPJ to the perp. havent we run out of basketball players, lacrosse players, frat boys, arena workers to blame? maybe it was just a random bad dude.

Whatever the parents and community need to do to grieve is fine with me. Violence against women doesn't get nearly enough attention, and it's good to see this particular community actually dealing with it. I'm not questioning the Fairfax cops, in fact I'm shocked in a GOOD way that the they actually did their job on the old rape case, because in my experience police in certain areas of Virginia don't take rape seriously at all. But with that said, the Fairfax "community" must not have done enough to catch the rapist/murderer, because he's still out there, isn't he? If this much is what it takes, I'm glad it's being done. Let's get that roving serial rapist/murderer locked safely away from the rest of us.

thank you Kenny and Ariaes46 for doing this. I am sure this mean a lot to Morgans parents. Keep the positive vibe going please!

Underage drinking is a huge problem on college campuses everywhere. It is also largely unaddressed by anyone appropo to that group by a peer or an example of a hard lesson such as Morgan's. There is MADD, which did a tremendous job bringing a focus that made a difference and grew to change laws.

Morgan drank, someone provided this to her. It impaired her and maybe to such a degree that it contributed to her death. Did her friends know this? Were they too drinking? As of now, this fact or not fact is swept under a rug. This could be a big lesson for kids under drinking age that there are deadly consequences when alcohol is sneaked and not monitored by anyone. To take a girl who used poor judgment along with many many other kids who do and did as well, and use this so that she can make a difference. Didn't she want to be a teacher? As hard as this is maybe her example will teach others what not to do.

Additionally, whoever gave this to her should be explored, why isn't it? Didn't that person contribute to a girl's demise in a certain way? Why isn't there outrage there? I'll tell you why---because everybody expects underage kids to drink. We all know it goes on and we turn our heads. We are turning our heads in this case too. We may not know alot of facts in this case but we know she got alcohol illegally. For shame that a blind eye is being turned!

In no way I am saying that because she drank, even irresponsibly caused someone to do what he did. No excuse there whatsoever. This could have happened to a sober woman, or man for that matter. Vanessa Pham was most likely sober, so it can and does happen regardless. However Morgan was not using the best judgment and drank. That she acted irresponsibly has everything in the world to do with too much alcohol consumption. This is fertile material to impact our kids lives and help them see if it can happen to a remarkable girl like her it can happen to them too. Just a thought.

Kenny, good to hear from you on this. This is long, sorry in advance, and skip this for you who aren't interested.

You know I see what you are saying and yet it gets back into what we don't know again and 'shoulds'. Everything you wrote is right technically. Absolutely.

Let's say for arguments sake that the 'authorities' didn't see her impaired. That when she left the building she may have been 'holding' it together at that moment. Or that someone did say something and she blew them off as some others have said when they reached out to her--if that was her. Don't know how old and experienced the 'authorities' are, or even if they pay much attention at all time. Read an account that one saw her fall but saw no blood. Some saw blood. Most likely wasn't gushing, not to minimize the injury as many can be serious with no blood. For for the sake of argument, say she'd got the bleeding under control and stopped.

So let's say this happened, that she either slipped out unnoticed or by some other way. We have her outside intoxicated for a bit of time wandering. Ideally many would have stopped her and forced her to get help or got her help. But this is the problem, at these sorts of events it isn't all that uncommon to see people loaded or high and just make assumptions. Not knowing how old someone is or who they are with, that they don't want your help etc...Yet she needs help and is underage and at this point has lost quite a bit of power over her life and is in harm's way. (she could have been hit by a car if she was on a street intoxicated as well, not only nabbed). The issue is that a half child, half woman has lost her power to alcohol at least, even to negligent employees, almost doesn't matter for my point. Granted she may have been drugged, but the dangers of underage drinking also invite more dangers. So she lost her ability to manage her life through substances that are not deemed legal in that state. That is it in a nutshell. To teach kids that fundamental issue of being responsible for consequences---even if the laws are written differently in different states, or one is in another country, as with the Holloway girl, or wherever people that are supposed to pay attention don't. As I write it reminds me of the issue of sex and the possibility of pregnancy for a girl. How on one hand you want your daughter's innocence for her sake, and yet how do you convey how serious pregnancy/disease/consequences could be to her as well if she has sex? That she has a degree of power over her body and just how well does she get that, how seriously. It becomes more of a personal politic for our daughters here.

We know she was impaired pretty bad. Blaming JPJ and saying they 'should' have is a route basically the Harringtons are going to have to decide to take if they feel that she was neglected. I can't speak to that. I only know the very limited facts that we have. What could Morgan have done differently and not be a total victim in this? What could come out of this that kids learn from? What could she have done differently? Not blaming her in any way for making the choices she did. None of us are innocent in this in some fashion. It's not a safe world at all, nor will be anytime soon. So how do we teach kids where the line is and the role they must play in maintaining the balance in life and safety?

Everybody is saying 'we' need to make the world safer, keep our daughters safe, yet that is a slow process, changing laws etc.. and evil people aren't going to evaporate. How do we accomodate this and fight it? I say to attempt to continue to empower these kids by using experiences of others whose lives were forever changed by not taking personal responsibility. Maybe naive for me to say and surely easier said than done. Yet what does your group say about how to keep girls safer? What is you vision for this? What can our daughters learn from Morgan's experience?

If there was negligence which you indicate relative to JPJ and that is a known fact then really only the Harringtons can address this in my view with a civil action or whatever. I'm not sure it serves us as supporters to attack JPJ without more facts. We are grasping at straws here people. There are really so few facts. But Morgan was intoxicated. However much or little and illegally. That is something that can be worked with.

Sorry this is so long. One more point. What is missing from the public's point of view is what was going on with Morgan the last 5 or 6 hours of her life at the least. Where were they? Were they drinking in the car, where'd they get it, how much, was there pot? If so who from, and stop protecting and covering for those that contributed if they did. If this occurs no one learns anything. No one is going to crucify these kids for doing what we all know most every kid does. But we know nothing. Did they go to a party, did Morgan receive phone calls from a guy earlier and on and on......

The public has been asked to help by the family and their PR firm. We are trying, our hands are tied, tell us more because more is there. It must be or it wouldn't be kept so secret. I find it frustrating to no end to try to suggest things only to be told some are negative or want to hurt someone or aren't beating on doors, putting up fliers, selling T shirts, or showing up at birthday parties. You know some of us can't. Chances are most of us aren't going to locate the killer, somebody may, but the majority of us aren't. The cops will do this as they have the info, authority etc.......my way of seeing it. Just to say 'we have to get a rapist/murderer off the street' is rhetoric to me.

Yet the primary focus stays on the one responsible and evil. Ultimately it is his fault no matter what! He must be found, but maybe divide up other aspects of Morgan's night and break it into workable pieces, such as what she could have done differently. Again sorry this is so long, wanted to get all my points in before work. Thanks again Kenny for responding.

Let's get back to solving this case. A madman is roming the streets and school is starting soon. Not enough is bein done here to get this monster off the streets. Our children are in danger. Wake up poeple. This is for real. I agree with Ariaes that this case is goning cold fast. The good people here are work hard for ths killer to brought to justice. If you arent' with us then you aren't for us. So whose side are you on anyway. Who care if she drinking!

Yes, the University of Virginia must be more vigilant about the safety of its students. ... maybe even set the standard for all VA universities. I am not implying that we need to "tie" this crime to UVA or JPJ, but this is the location of the disappearance of a murdered girl. We need to do all that we can to raise awareness for safety for our citizens, and most especially our young, vulnerable students.

The issue here is whether U.Va. needs to be more vigilant about the safety of concertgoers at JPJ. I don't know. If someone wandered off from a show at the MCI Arena in DC and disappeared from a DC street and was later found murdered, would people complain that security at the venue was lax?

The police say they say found a DNA link between a rape suspect in Fairfax and evidence gathered in the Harrington case. If it was a cop/FBI agent(s) from Fairfax with access to that department's forensic files who murdered Morgan Harrington (maybe the same cop that some suspect murdered all those other folks in the Fairfax area), of course he'd plant some of that DNA he got from the evidence lab on Morgan's body. Of course, that scenario will never be investigated. That would discourage cops from killing people and framing others for it.

But with that said, the Fairfax ââ?¬Å?community” must not have done enough to catch the rapist/murderer, because he’s still out there, isn’t he?
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Well, Fairfax "County" has over a million people. Are you really suggesting that it's surprising that an area with that population has unsolved crimes?

Hey, I'm just saying that this guy is still on the streets because Fairfax failed the last victim, even though they put forth SOME effort. And that's the key - you can gripe that the Harringtons are doing too much, but obviously whatever EVERYONE has done so far ISN'T EVEN ENOUGH. So if you want to gripe, it should be about people NOT doing enough, not the other way around.

Here's another thought for you -- most of the time, composite sketches aren't even made of "mere" rapists until they've already terrorized a neighborhood. I remember one city didn't bother getting a sketch of an inner city rapist until he had raped something like 13 women in a short period of time and the police were hot under the collar to get him locked up. We haven't heard about the circumstances behind the Fairfax case -- why did they bother to do a sketch? Did he already have a dozen victims behind him?

You can say Fairfax has a million people and so "of course" they have unsolved crimes. Well, that's a pretty serious crime to leave unsolved. If you want those kinds of crimes unsolved in your community because "of course" every community has unsolved crimes, then feel free to enjoy that guy wandering your community, free to rape and kill you/your daughter/your mother/your wife/your sister/your cousins. But if you don't want to leave the crime unsolved, then I'd suggest people stop griping about the Harringtons and do something constructive for a change.

Thank you Yes.

Give it a rest Jean.

And the assailant demonstrated his opposition to Googoosh’s ââ?¬Å?western ways” by almost killing a Middle Eastern woman who was walking home from the grocery store and had not attended the concert, and who apparently comes from an observant Muslim family?

And then four years later, the assailant killed Harrington because she supposedly looked like a 60-year-old Iranian pop singer?

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Did she go to the concert? Did Morgan go to the concert? Maybe she was not observant enough to the perpetrator? We didn't get a
description of how she was dressed but I doubt she was wearing a hijab.

And then four years later...? We don't know if there was a gap
do we? He might have committed crimes elsewhere? He could've been out of the country?

Think outside the box and don't let PC keep you from looking at a real possibility. This may not be a "black man" as everyone in Ch'ville was so quick to assume.

Boo, just wanted to say that I feel confident that the bridge is the last place that anyone seen Morgan, as her scent was picked up there by the search dogs. That is PLENTY of proof for me. So I feel ok going to celebrate her life and memory there. It was a beautiful day and I do not see how we cause a 'scene'' or 'commotion' there at all. We are always respectful of the traffic, and the joggers, or walkers that use the bridge. Perhaps you might go have a look at this beautiful memorial site and see that it is tasteful, not disrespectful or a hindrance to foot traffic at all, and maybe you will feel the love that we all feel when we are there.
Mom of Three, yes there were many factors that could have played out differently that night, as you speak of, but let us not play the blame game. The fact is, Morgan's scent was picked up on the bridge, this has been known from the beginning, whether she was in fact hitching a ride, we may never know, I have my doubts on that, and I do not believe Morgan got into a vehicle willingly at any point. My personal belief, my personal opinion, we are all entitled to one. The problem I have here is no-one believing she was ever sighted there, even if the person(s) who claim to have seen her there were lying, the pure fact is, her SCENT WAS there. That is good enough for me to support the family in going to this bridge and honoring a young lady I cared about.
And as Kenny said, this was not the family's idea, it was a group idea, a way to honor Morgan on her special day, to keep people aware, because complacency in our society is dangerous.
My own children get upset with me when I remind them of the dangers out there,I still do it, and I will still remind others as often as I am able about the danger that lies in this world of ours when you are complacent. I would like to see young women empower themselves because of Morgan's story, I would like them to be aware that there is a danger in their community, and take action. And if that means we go to that bridge once a week, once a month, whatever, and these young women are safer today than they were yesterday because they hear Morgan's story I will keep on with it!

Jean:

You wrote: "I think this guy is a student possibly working on or recently completed a Doctorate." Wow, I just don't see why you would say that. Why would he need to do this to get women? I see this person as possibly being a homeless drug-dealer.

When will that site be up again? Please get it running again asap!!!!

How could this suspect have attacked Morgan Harrington in a heavily populated area, and then loaded her in to a car? I think she willingly got in to a car with him. And why would she have done that? Why would she have willingly have gotten in to a car with a man who was this much older than her, who looked nothing like her? What would they have had in common?

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If she willingly got into a car/van with him, why did they find her purse in the parking area? What women leaves her purse behind? I don't think he asked. He attacked the first victim from behind. I don't think he's much into to talking to his victims. His first attack was quick and brutal. Why do you think he took his time in the second one? It doesn't fit. He doesn't lure. He strikes.

Richard. No I am not God. I don't see where anything in my posting was in anyway wrong. It was well thought out before written.
Explain to me how me stating that JPJ should have cameras in all areas outside, traffic lights should have cameras, Harringtons friends should have checked on her, and Harrington shouldn't have been drinking could possible mean I need help??? You are beyond ignorant. Good thing we are all entitled to our own opinions.

Kenny, while you may be 'abroad', can you work on getting that forum of Morgan's up and running?

To S Jones:

You wrote: "But, I have been asking for re=enactments for 5 months under a ââ?¬Å?New Moon” not a full moon."

What kind of re-enactment? Do you want Metallica to come back and replay the entire concert, and have 12,000 people re-attend? What are you talking about exactly?

Janie,

You should know that UVA will do anything it can to protect it's image. And they can tell local media what to cover, and what not to cover. Last Fall, that included suppressing any evidence that might have connected Morgan's disappearance to anything UVA - even though it is here where she vanished. The UVA president even refused to sign the Letter of Condolence to Morgan's parents penned by the VT president after her body was found.

They didn't tell you or your parents at orientation that another UVA student dropped dead at a frat house last April, did they? They also were probably not too talkative about how Ms. Love was previously assaulted at a frat party just weeks before her death by Mr. Huguley, did they? Nor did they tell you that he had assaulted a teammate just weeks before that, did they? That was part of the code of silence at UVA back then, as it is now. BMOC's like Huguely get away with stuff like that here. You should know this now, and be forewarned.

What they want you and your parents to believe - along with everyone else - is that these tragedies were isolated incidents that had nothing to do with anything other than "gender violence" or needles in a haystack. The reality is that they are covering up a huge peer pressure driven culture of late night intoxication that is punctuated with all sorts of drugs and violence. There is much, much more of this than you will ever read about in the media. The UVA cops are told not to speak about such things, and they do as their bosses tell them like employees do. Thousands of UVA students graduate 4 years later as full blown alcoholics with serious drug habits that have already done them damage and will be tough to kick.

You will notice in a few weeks time that there will be only one place for the dorm residents to go and drink at night, and those frat parties will offer unlimited amounts of free liquor to teenage women like you. There will be other things offered you also. Not taking part will earn you scorn from those who think they are atop the social ladder quite quickly. I've had classmates at PVCC who transferred to UVA, my roommate goes there now, and I've been around here for 7 years now. I hope you have the self confidence and good sense to have fun, but to also be aware that there are lots of dark traps (and dark people) at UVA that many who have come before you have fallen into thinking it was all harmless.

I wish you well, but hope you are informed and aware that these habits have ensnared many that came before you. Mr. Huguley was a very popular dude on Grounds and in the corner bars. Buy some pepper spray, never walk alone at night, and beware the frat house charmers with their intoxicants. Good luck.

He's a connector!

Fortunately, the only other event that these people can reasonably have in Charlottesville is the one-year anniversary of the disappearance. Anything beyond annual remembrances at that time would just be bad taste.

I think that it's not such a bad thing to talk about how Morgan brought purpose to people's lives. I have yet to see where that is such a bad thing. She's made a difference in a lot of peoples lives that is no secret. I find it more "tasteless" to knock down a good thing such as being compassionate, than I do seeing someone who atleast has a heart. There is such a thing as if you do not like it, ignore it, don't read it if it bugs you that bad, but to knock down someone who atleast has a heart and some compassion to go with it, really shows me the character of the reader. Thank you Ariaes and Kenny for having that compassion. A little sure does go a long way sometimes. Yes, Morgans Birthday was a very beautiful celebration, sad, yet beautiful at the same time. The sense of family was unbelieveable. I will never get tired of doing what I can to support the Harringtons be it in Charlottesville or anywhere else. I will never need anyone on any blogs here or elsewhere to tell me why I am there, or why I should or should not be there, my mind was made up 9 months ago. No family on this earth should ever have to endure what they have gone through with Morgan's death. This fight, is for Morgan and all the other victims out there. If I had to be the ONLY one standing on that bridge or among 20 or 30, I will do it. I will be there. I was there, I was glad to be there, and I will never forget it. Blue Skies I do not mean to degrade you or anyone else on here. You are free to your opinions, I only wish we wouldn't continue to make this about Kenny or FM or ourselves, and just concentrate on finding who did this. It is just that the more bickering that goes on here, the less that gets done. I do not post here often but I do read here, and you are right, the hook is good for stickin to the facts, so, lets stick to them and keep it goin here. I'd like to see more of that. I am only one reader but there are thousands out there. I just prefer to read here. I won't post here again, I just wanted to say how I felt from the outside lookin in so to speak.

I just read the news and felt like commenting on what I saw. You know there is a place in the world where people support care show concern and all of that for others. Morgan in this case. I feel for her family but that doesn't mean there isn't a place for criticism or OBSERVATIONS even if they sound :snarky:. Don't have to take it personal or think I or others have bad minds. As for me I don't lead with my emotions. I HAVE lost a relative to violence. Sometimes I may even joke about it to not cry but I sure as heck would not let you all see me do this. It is MY way not YOUR way. How I see and interpret things is my deal. So stop judging me. Discernment is not judgement IMHO look it up. There is soem differences between them. So what if
others see and experience this different than soem of you? It may be our way of coping with thing as we do read about Morgan and want the latest news on the case. What is with soem of you?

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Amanda Hill typed in: "To all of you that post negative comments about Morgan and the Harrington’s,please try to be positive and smile, because you are on camera!"

I don't know what a "negative" comment is regarding this unsolved murder. The parents put themselves and her unsolved murder in the news, over and over. This invites comments on websites. There is a reward offered. This invites comments on websites. The parents are trying to get the public to help solve the case. To help solve the case, the public has to explore many possibilities. Just typing in "let's pray for Morgan Dana Harrington" a million times may be positive, but it's not going to help solve the case, at least not in my opinion!

Said I wasn't going to post again, but see the further comments and don't want to get anymore going. Just to say to some, and in particular, RU Kidding?? I see where you're coming from man. I can get sarcastic and irritated at times and it comes out hard. I feel a similar way to some of the die hard fans--just as I can be sarcastic, I find some of their sugar coated sentiments cloying and frankly ridiculous at times. But that is just me and not some truth that the Universe is hinged upon okay? Plus I think people get liking or idolizing the Harringtons mixed up with attempts to get justice for Morgan. One doesn't follow the other necessarily and some of this pandering to the H's almost invites criticism truth be told.

I would probably like Kenny if I met him, but just from some of what I've read, and Ken I know you're reading and it ain't personal Dude, but it isn't my style. Not for running a forum or whatever. That being said, HE is the one that ran one, not me and should get all the credit for that. I just have a hang up with all the emotionalism and as SJones rightly said, heart on the sleeve stuff. But hey Kenny whatever floats your boat. Not being sarcastic here either. Still Dude, that FB stuff looked freaky to me, to me only okay, and just my take on it. Clearly you have what it takes and know the H's and at this point it is none of my business and I'll leave it at that. Best of luck and believe it or not I do care.

I am so embarrassed. I am sorry Mr. J.

But to catch a killer like this, you have to be a criminal and live in the Central Virginia world of robbery, mugging, drug-dealing, and even murder. Seeing as how I don't committ any crimes, myself, I don't have any contacts. So, that means I don't have any way to get info. :)

You know everything quieted down here over the last day or so and seems like ppl took a deep breath and got a grip. Then Cookie Jar leaves some strange nondirected sort of provacative post of >fake< and then one of the moderators JMe comes back to stir it up again with Mr. Jones. He has tried his best to be as nice as he can be and keep a low profile and you just seem to want to get the conflict going again. Can you all just let it go and yeah you were dumping Mr. Jones into a group to bash another poster and don't do this to him. When is enough enough for you ppl? Geesh!

Loebs cleaners, ducks inside, sun studios, larry raspberry, tommy boggs and the counts

Its me

Live, online, mental meltdown......

"Why?"...yes, everything calmed down here, which is why my comment to Mr. Jones was totally positive where I said, "Way to go!"
Not sure why you misunderstood unless you thought I wasn't being sincere. Its ok, I LOVE the Positive here! Thank you all for being positive. We need more of it. And thank those of you who do care. I am hoping those of you who wish to show Morgan's life is having a positive effect would focus on the good, educate young people on safety and remember all the fundraising out there for worthy purposes. Here's to a positive day...Peace

It's too bad that people in Virginia jails CAN'T post online sometimes!

They might know something about this crime.

Let's find the absolute freak who is responsible for these horrific crimes and put him in a cage for the rest of his life... Until then, this could happen to someone you love

• boooo! July 23rd, 2010 | 2:40 pm
I understand why the family is doing what they do, and releasing 21 balloons with the composite sketch of the guy who was linked to her case via forensic evidence from the Fairfax case is a neat idea in my opinion (providing of course that authorities are not mistaken in interpreting the forensic evidence, whatever that evidence actually was). The only thing that makes me pause is the continued focus on Copeley Bridge. There is no definitive proof that Morgan was ever in fact hitch hiking on that bridge, or that it really was the last place where she was sighted. She may never have been there at all. So that’s the only thing that gives me pause, it the continued focus on Copeley Bridge, and choosing to make a scene on that bridge.
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Hi Booooo”Š..the reason that we meet at the bridge is because it has become a symbol of Morgan’s disappearance and murder. Copely Bridge is the last place that Morgan was seen. It is also a main thoroughfare from JPJA to 250.

Whether or not we have definitive proof, the bridge has become a symbol of a beautiful young woman, who SHOULD BE celebrating her 21st birthday tomorrow.

Boooo”Š.where else would we go? Morgan’s case needs to remain imprinted in the community of Charlottesville’s minds, at least until her MURDERER is caught and convicted. It really does not matter where we go, as long as we go. We are not going to stop. If we stop, then Charlottesville forgets. We are not going to let this happen.

Peace to you booo”ŠI hope this weighs heavy on your heart and you join us tomorrow at the bridge. The Harrington’s need your support too.

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My heart goes out to the family of Morgan Harrington. I'm eager to see the police catch this guy. Did anybody make the connection
that the sexual assalt in Northern Virgina occurred near GMU Patriot Center at 10pm. There was a Googoosh Concert there that night. Don't know what the victim looks like in that case but Morgan looks very similar to how Googoosh looked in 2000 with her blonde hair. This man could be a Iranian national or an Islamic extremist who despises Googoosh and her western ways. He could know Ch'ville area and GMU area as a student. He might have lived with family in the residential neighborhood next to the farm or had summer work nearby. Googoosh is very controversial - see 2000 CNN interview on you tube. Islamic Law forbade Googoosh from performing for 20 years before she performed again in 2000 in Canada and the US. She has many fans and possibly many who do not like her for what she stands for and for what she sings about.
This man sounds angry and violent. The Fairfax victim was beaten.

Momof3, your above post last paragraph speaks to you and your fears and not reality. Get real, get help, you aren't God. Thank God.

JJ. I would concur and add with way too much time on his hands.

I have read where people say that UVa should have had security cameras up around JPJ. Why would any basketball arena or football stadium have security cameras up? It could probably just lead to invasion of privacy lawsuits. Would students like having a "security camera" watching them while they're in class, taking a test? I doubt it!

The only reason why there would have been a photo of Morgan Dana Harrington at the concert would have been if her friends took one. I guess they elected not to. Maybe that says something right there?

Mom of 3: Just saw your angry dejected reply to me.

You are arguing with life, "shouldn't" it to death. Cause and effect Mom. If you follow your argument it would reveal that Morgan's problem began with her being born. Which would have been a sad thing in and of itself.

I have been known to be ignorant at times dear lady. It has served me well I may add.

I'm not sure what a new moon reenactment would show, apart from the fact that it was dark.

What are people supposed to reenact anyway?

Hi SJones, are you alright? What do you mean this has been done before? I've been working on it from my end, don't worry. I don't need this so I'm calling my dad who's best friend is an attorney here. It's okay.

Yes I have 2 friends with me. One's mom lives here and she may have just now called her don't know. I'll do more tomorrow. There are plenty of my parent's friends that live in C'ville so I'll be fine SJones. Chelsea myob.

Are you reporting yourself?

It's being handled SJones. I don't want to post here on what it is I'm doing as we are in a pit of snakes now. Just know it is being taken care of and thanks!