'Not my responsibility' No-plow-zone finally gets plowed
Roy's Place gets a Valentine– its first plowing of the season on February 13.PHOTO COURTESY CHRISTINE CORNWELL
The cul-de-sac that Charlottesville city crews won't plow because of a dispute with the developer got mechanically scraped for the first time this season, but negotiations to get the neighborhood off the city's no-plow list remain at a stalemate.
"I'm going to move the snow tomorrow," says developer Bobby Banks on February 12. "Not to say I'm responsible. The people there deserve better."
The residents discovered their legal limbo during the December 18-19 Snowpocalypse when the city said its crews wouldn't plow Roy's Place because the developer had not properly finished building the infrastructure.
Banks, however, says he never received the April 8 letter in which Charlottesville planning director Jim Tolbert demanded a fix to sidewalks and curbs. Nor, says Banks, did he get the letter sent earlier this year warning that the city would call Banks' $250K bond if the work weren't completed by February 1.
"It has become very obvious that you have no intention to complete these required improvements in your development," writes Tolbert on January 13. "Your residents are having to deal with this untenable situation."
Banks met with Tolbert and assistant city attorney Rich Harris February 11.
"He basically said he had no intention of doing anything else," says Tolbert. "We're assessing our options."
"This is going to have some litigation," says Banks. "This is going to court."
In the meantime, Banks delivered a Bobcat mini-bulldozer to Roy's Place (where a Hook staffer lives) and February 13, a crew scraped the street .
"It's not my responsibility," insists Banks. "But because it's in my father's name, I'm going to do it."
–last updated 1:06pm, Tuesday, February 16
–original headline: Roy's Place: 'Not my responsibility,' says developer
61 comments
I think both the city and the developer are at fault for not resolving this one way or the other. If the project started in 2005 there is no excuse for whatever needed to be done to get the city to accept it or reject it.
Might point out that there are private developments in the county that are not plowed by VDOT. The homeowners association is responsible for it, just as they are for trash removal.
It is true a few seconds can make a difference in am emergency situation. But the 45 seconds in the case of a thug kicking in the back door calls to mind another number-44. As in .44 caliber!
So agarn, penelope and J. seinfeld are all the same person. Hilarious! The only thing more hilarious in all of his/her comments is the idea that I work for the lousy local government.
I can read though. I've read this website where TSA outlines its policies. The TSA employee in Philadelphia caused needless anger and his actions could still lead to a lawsuit because he chose to deviate from the written policy. That's why those policies are in place and thank god the city has done something right for a change, like obey its own laws in the case of Roy's Place. Its obvious they have learned from some of their past mistakes.
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/specialneeds/editorial_1370.shtm#0
Assistive Devices and Mobility Aids
Prosthetic Devices, Casts, And Body Braces
-Security Officers will not ask nor require you to remove your prosthetic device, cast, or support brace.
-During the screening process, please do not remove or offer to remove your prosthetic device.
CC the "driveways" you refer to are not roads they are usually farm names. They are not roads that were built with a permit to build a road to state maintainance standards with the intent of turning over to the state. These farmers did niot put up 250k bonds to guarantee the completion. The city or county is not sending them letters requesting compliance.
You are obviously a government worker who lacks the ability to understand anything beyond what you an read in black and white.
This is not about black and white this about right wrong and common sense. I notice that you proclaim explanations but ignore examples that change the players but not the point.
A person like you working for homeland security made a four year old whos father is a COP take off the metal braces he needs to walk to make him walk thru the metal scanner in Philly.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/84368492.html
I am sure this idiot can find something in writing to support his case also.
Charlottesville government SUX
Like I have said the city is letting down the residents who paid taxes in good faith. If we added up the cost of Tolberts and the City attorneys time they could have plowed the street until 2020.
Plowing the road does not weaken the citys leverage and it takes care of innoncent people who were let down by the the city.
Regardless of the isses regarding completing the road
it was STUPID for the city to not plow the road.
Thats right STUPID. Typical government worker mentality. So long as someone can cover their a$$ with a piece of paper it doesn't matter if people suffer.
I hope he prevails in court so the city will have to explain to the residents why it didn't look out for them.
"sounds like agarn penolpe and jerry seinfeld were right after all”Š."
because?
"Council has decided it’s going to change the city’s policy to allow for the acceptance of streets when they are paved rather than when the project is done."
Sounds much more like they were dead wrong. There still won't be any maintenance until the street is accepted. What's going to change is the acceptance procedure.
J. seinfeld, I think you ought to go to Council's meeting Tuesday evening at 7 PM and give them a piece of your mind. Maybe, the, they will see the light and start doing the right thing. You just need to bring it their attention. I'll be tuning in. Give 'em hell!
@hahahahahahahahaha, No, obviously they weren’t right all along. That’s why Council has asked staff staff to change the law.
They changed the POLICY not the law. Why did they change it? Oh thats right.. they realized that they were not serving the people responsibly.
They had to change the policy because the idiots that run the show were making idiotic decisions and needed to be reined in to protect the public.
Sounds like the council is looking out for the people. Good for them.
sounds like agarn penolpe and jerry seinfeld were right after all....
Maybe CC should go to a public hearing and complain that they are not following the written rules....
Also be thankful that Mr. Banks cleaned your street, Guest. It's now the cleanest street in town! Wait until the city cleans it. Yo'l have to really dig your car that's parked on the street out. Sometimes you really have to watch what you ask for. My street still doesn't have on-street parking. And, yes, I'm saying this with a smirk, hahahahahahahahaha
@hahahahahahahahaha, No, obviously they weren't right all along. That's why Council has asked staff staff to change the law.
@Guest, "Do you have a life outside of posting obnoxious comments in The Hook? Apparently not" I see you've answered your own question. Maybe (a) - (f), but mostly likely not. Snow removal w, in particular, wasn't discussed. Roy's Place wasn't named.
sounds to me like the TSA agent would fall back on the written documents if they tried to disipline him for it.
Which is exactly the point of this entire situation.
Inept government workers potentially put lives and taxpayer liability at riak because they were either:
a) on a power trip
b) too stupid to make a decent decison to look out for all of the residents (the people may have gotten their street plowed but the city also would have been protected from a potential lawsuit)
c)not smart enough to pass the buck upstairs and make the mayor take the heat. (elected officals should ALWAYS be the where the buck stops because they are the only ones the people can FIRE!)
Contrary to CCs opion the Mayor has a duty to keep things runnibg smoothly and get involved. His most important job is to protect the residents from the Government.
I guess he was too busy watering the plants on a green roof.
quote: "(elected officals should ALWAYS be the where the buck stops because they are the only ones the people can FIRE!)"
Sounds nice, but you can't fire or vote out a Democrat in Charlottesville. Even if you do, all you get is another Democrat. :)
No, Gasbag Self Ordained Expert, as commented by one of the resients in the previous story, the issue is not getting the street scraped of ice, it's getting the city to use Bobby Banks' $250k bond to finish the infrastructure work. I had noticed that on the TV news story that the resident interviewed by the press didn't seem to have any difficulty in driving on the street. http://readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2010/02/09/no-plow-zone-the-st...
@Clear the air, your statements are right on the dollar. However, "...if you want to get something done in this city all you have to do is cry enough in front of city council." won't be true for long. Council is proposing to hire a "Neighborhood Advocate" who's job is to keep you away from the microphone in front of Council. Instead the Neighborhood Advocate will act as a go-between. That way fewer issues will be aired publicly and the current regime will have less bad press. It's called using taxpayers' money to stay elected.
"That is what the permit fee and bond were for." - Permit fees are to cover the administrative costs of reviewing the site plans and issuing the permit. The bond is to ensure that the work be completed.
"This is supposed to be a small town. Is the Mayor too big to help out these people?" - The Mayor is too small to help people. He is only a Council Member appointed as Mayor by fellow council members. A ribbon cutter, a figure head, not unlike the Queen of England these days.
Would this discussion be happening if "a hook staffer" didn't own one of the properties on this street?
CC the TSA agent WAS following the WRITTEN rules... that was the problem...lack of god judgment...
and that is the problem here,
I suppose if you were a Doctor and went in to an operating room and saw a mangled left leg you would go ahead and amputate the RIGHT leg because the piece of paper said so?
THe Mayor may not have the authority to tell tolbert what to do
but he has an OBLIGATION to look out for the residents and be a mouthpiece for his constituents.
quote from your piece "Subject to general control by the council"
This means that the city manager workes for the council, this means the Mayor has a right to call him and ask him what the hell is wrong with his people that makes them do such stupid things.
The Mayor can move to have him fired at any time. that is what accountability is all about.
You are obviuosly a Government wonk who will hopefully be laid off along with the rest of the idiots that cannot manage money worth a crap in this town.
The government is there to serve the people. The residents of Roys place paid their taxes and had legal representation at settlement.It was the CITY that did not do its JOB. Not the residents. The CITY should have stepped up to the plate.
You can quote all the code you want but the FACT is the Mayor is supposed to step up and defend the people from lousy government.
I suppose you defended the police when they ran over the poor soul in the wheelchair too?
"I certainly believe that if the mayor had stepped in and said ââ?¬Å?why are we not just plowing this and dealing with the legal issue later” a lot of ill will could have been avoided."
Well, what about the ill will of every other person who lives on unaccepted streets that then wants to be included in the next round of plowing?
That street is only slightly different than a shared driveway. Rather than being for the exclusive use of a few people, it has been dedicated as a right of way for the general public. Since it hasn't been accepted, technicality or not, it is PRIVATE property despite being dedicated to the public right of way. Since it's a cul de sac, it doesn't really serve the public's need to get anywhere but to those houses. Really then it's a shared driveway with public right of access granted to it. There are many shared driveways in the city too. I can think of several in my neighborhood alone and several others that I know of across town.
If that shared driveway gets cleared at public expense, then what about all of the other shared driveways in town like my own. I want it plowed if someone else's driveway gets plowed by the city.
Unfortunately for some, Councilors have sworn to uphold the laws and not do special favors.
Anton, the city is appraising the homes and collecting taxes on them! That's how they are the bad guys!! Taxation without representation ring a bell here? Representation being their not getting the same services everybody else gets for their tax dollar.
ââ?¬Å?It’s not my responsibility,” insists Banks. ââ?¬Å?But because it’s in my father’s name, I’m going to do it.”
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It's a good thing that the street doesn't have a usual generic subdivision name, then.
This is why the city requires developers to post bonds!
What failure of our educational system was that kept so many people from knowing the difference between fact and opinion? The mayor has no more powers and virtually no more responsibility than any other councilor. That's clearly spelled out in the City Charter and the rest of City Code. It is very straightforward. No wonder we used to have literacy tests for voters. The inability of the poster above to comprehend that the TSA agent was going against TSA policy is just sad, sad, sad.
Sec. 5. Elective officers; qualifications and terms of certain officers; form of government; corporate powers vested in city council; salaries of councilmen and mayor; city manager; director of finance.
(a) The municipal authorities of the said city shall consist of a council of five members, one of whom shall be mayor,
(f) Subject to general control by the council as provided in subsection (b) hereof, the city manager shall have full executive and administrative authority and shall have the right to employ and discharge all employees under his control. All departments of city government, including the fire department and police department, shall be under the general supervision of the city manager.
Sec. 2-39. Election, terms and general powers and duties of mayor, vice-mayor and mayor pro tempore; mayor's veto.
(a) The city council shall, at its first meeting in July after the regular biennial election of council members or as soon thereafter as practicable, elect one (1) of its members mayor. The mayor shall continue in office two (2) years. If a vacancy occurs in the office of mayor before the end of the term, such vacancy shall be filled as provided by section 8 of the Charter. The mayor shall have no veto power.
(b) At the same time, the city council shall elect one (1) of its members to be vice-mayor, who shall continue in office two (2) years. If a vacancy occurs in the office before the end of his term, such vacancy shall be filled as provided by section 8 of the Charter.
(c) The mayor shall preside at the meetings of the city council and when, from any cause, he shall be absent, the vice-mayor shall preside. In the absence of both, a mayor pro tempore may be elected.
(d) The vice-mayor, in the absence of the mayor and while acting as mayor, shall be vested with all the rights and duties of the mayor.
(Code 1976, § 2-7)
State law references: Election of mayor by council, Code of Virginia, § 15.1-925.
Yep, that's about it, the mayor of Charlottesville presides at meetings. He doesn't do much more than that.
seriously? racism is the reason they're threatening to pull his bond?
wow. I think the tea-party crowd that is so vociferously attacking the city and supporting the developer on this topic is suddenly going to be stumped as to how to respond.
"The city does not call it a shared driveway they call it ââ?¬Å?roys place” which is a ROAD."
Practically every driveway in Albemarle County has a name on it. So what, does that mean the county is now obliged to clear every driveway?
The answer to your question "why not just plow the road" has been answered in full time and time again., but you clearly have no understanding of or respect for the law, public processes, facts regarding property ownership, or the rights and responsibilities that come with it. If you took a few minutes to read the law that governs these things, you would know all you need to know and could stop with that foolishness.
Google Charlottesville City Code and you will find the whole thing. All the relevant sections I could find have already been selected for you here. http://readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2010/02/09/no-plow-zone-the-st... Read up and come back with some real understanding of the situation or you're just farting on screen.
It's all George Bush's fault
J.Seinfeld,
The idea that you think that plowing the roads would have saved the taxpayer lawsuits eats at any credibility you have on a legitimate argument. Yeah, the city dragged its feet. I wonder hw many residents got off their duffs and did anything last fall abut the dragging feet, or like so many people, ignored it until it becomes a crisis that affects them directly. I am willing to bet most of them did nothing until the plows didn't show up in December. Then it was scream scream I bet.
I am nt cutting the city slack on not pressuring the developer mre quickly, he is obviously the typical take the money and run developer, but I am also not willing to cut the residents much slack either. Once they knew the status was in limbo, they should have hired a contractor to plow the area until it was resolved if it was that important.
Remember, many of us never got our streets plowed in December either even though our streets aren't n plow.
I don't drink tea.
I suppose that maybe this issue is so STUPID that the race card was the only one left in the pile.
I am not supporting the developer I am calling out the city for not doing the right thing.
I would bet if the road conncetted two arteries and traffic flow was an issue for Mr. Tolbert to get to work it would have been plowed.
Thye city has wasted presious tax dollars on this already. I am sure the School children won't mind.
quote: "...plowing is not widely considered to be a basic entitlement."
IMHO, it should be. It's a public safety issue.
This little pissing contest between the city and the developer is putting all Roy's Place residents at risk as far as the cop shoppe, fire department and rescue squad being able to respond in a timely fashion. When ye ole Christmas tree goes up in flames, a 45 second delay can make all the difference in the world. It can also make all the differnce when a thug is kicking in your back door as well. The rescue squad, well, they do such a great job they will jog through 24" of snow barefooted to get to the patient.
The article makes some pretty clear points: it's a private street that has not yet been deeded to the city, the city doesn't think it meets standards, and the developer doesn't want to do anything else. How is the city the bad guy here? Because they don't plow private roads?
Gasbag - since when does collecting taxes on private property - something the city does to every property owner - have to do with scraping a private street? don't people do a title search when they buy their houses? do they look at what the search says?
Not that the tea-partiers who want to bash on the city no matter what will care, but clearly this policy (having a no-plow list for streets that are still legally privately owned) is not unique to Charlottesville. It seems to be a standard thing across the United States: localities are not obligated to plow streets that are still owned by the developer. Even within Charlottesville, there are apparently other streets that do not get plowed, apparently with none of this controversy. So despite what the taxation-without-representation hysterics say, it appears that snow plowing is not widely considered to be a basic entitlement.
Funny how someone can rant on about all he KNOWS about what the city has to do, the precarious legal situation it MUST have put itself in, and blah,blah,blah, but not know something as basic about local government as the fact that the mayor is no different than any other councilor and has no special powers. It's having to deal with idiots like that which keeps good people from taking government jobs.
So is the street passable now? Did the resident do what a lot of other residents in the city and eleswhere have done? Shoveled themselves out?
If "they are not part of the solution to the immediate problem (getting the street cleared) then they are part of the problem"
If someone wants to dedicate their street then they have the option of approaching the city like Mr. Banks did.
If the city agrees and issues a permit and takes a bond then perhaps the city should consider plowing it in a GD blizzard. That would be good public policy.
If someone has an "unaccepted" street that is in TRANSITION that the PROPERTY OWNERS have no control over then the city should consider plowing it in a GD blizzard.
This storm was a safety issue not kool aid at a picnic.
If someone has an "unaccepted" road because they have not even applied then I doubt they would be slighted.
The city does not call it a shared driveway they call it "roys place" which is a ROAD. CCs opinion to the contrary does not make him right.
Your inability to distinguish between a driveway and a road built to state standards, named accordingly, bonded and in the process of becoming a road does not mean you are entitled to have your DRIVEWAY plowed.
You still miss the point that the city has wasted taxpayer dollars, inconvienced taxpayers and theoretically put peoples safety at risk because some government worker made a decision that benefited no one at others expense.
Why NOT just plow the road? Snow removal is not filling pot holes or installing stop signs.
J. seinfeld has selected a perfect example of why the rules OUGHT to be followed to link to. That article refers to the troubles a police officer who is the father of a small child with special needs faced when a security officer deviated from policy to do things his own way. The child was forced to remove the leg braces and then forced to walk on his own through a screening machine. His father, Bob Thomas was understandably quite upset.
quote from the article linked to above:
By then, Bob Thomas was furious. He demanded to see a supervisor. The supervisor asked what was wrong.
"I told him, 'This is overkill. He's 4 years old. I don't think he's a terrorist.' "
The supervisor replied, "You know why we're doing this," Thomas said...
...Back home in Glassboro a week later, Bob Thomas called the airport manager and left her what he calls a terse message.
He was still angry enough last week to call me after I'd written a couple of columns about travelers' complaints of mistreatment by screeners at the airport.
"This was just stupid," he told me.
At the very least, it was not standard procedure.
On Friday, TSA spokeswoman Ann Davis said the boy never should have been told to remove his braces.
TSA policy should have allowed the parents to help the boy to a private screening area where he could have been swabbed for traces of explosive materials.
She said she wished Thomas had reported the matter to TSA immediately. "If screening is not properly done, we need to go back to that officer and offer retraining so it's corrected."
All the father wants now is to make sure that correct procedures are followed in the future.
Afterward, Thomas said he appreciated Ellis' call. He said he had no interest in pursuing the matter further or in filing a lawsuit.
"I'm just looking for things to be done right," he said. "And I just want to make sure this isn't done to anyone else. Just abide by your standard operating procedures."
quote: "Council has decided it’s going to change the city’s policy to allow for the acceptance of streets when they are paved rather than when the project is done."
If they are collecting TAXES from the residents in these projects, this is they way it should have been all along.
I wish the plow drivers luck on St Charles Court though. It is so narrow now that residents have to park on the sidewalks. I wonder where the plows would even push the snow to.
they changed the policy because they are afraid of a few crying voices that make them look bad. if you want to get something done in this city all you have to do is cry enough in front of city council.
C-ville Eye,
Do you have a life outside of posting obnoxious comments in The Hook? Apparently not.
Maybe no one showed up to the public meeting (a) because the developer finally agreed to plow the street; (b) because city officials finally admitted that the situation is "untenable;" (c) because the developer and the city attorney have met to discuss the situation, meaning that there's movement on this front; (d) because citizens can call and write to their elected officials and don't need to show up in person to meetings; (e) because they were working late; (f) because they're not pathetic cranks like you.
She's probably already on the phone complaining. :)
Council has decided it's going to change the city's policy to allow for the acceptance of streets when they are paved rather than when the project is done. This is because of emails recieeved from several unfinished projects such as Village Place, Cherry Hill and St. Charles Place or Court (six developments in all). This was proposed by staff after consultation with several of the developers. They will still hesitate to use the bonds (there are currently about 85 in the city) to finish the infrastructure before all of the houses are built, preferring that as a last resort. I'm so glad that Roy's Place residents were so instrumental in this decision-making process. I hope they will have the video of tonight's metting up tomorrow so that I can watch the end of the first session of Matters by the Public. I did listen to the last Matters by the Public and no one spoke about the snow issue. The restaurant owners/musicians seem to be success in raising the noise levels permitted in restaurants being raised from 55 db to 60 db. Citizen participation is a wonder isn't it. That was arrived at before Mayor Norris was in attendance.
Quote: 'A person like you working for homeland security made a four year old whos father is a COP take off the metal braces he needs to walk to make him walk thru the metal scanner in Philly."
Absolutely amazing!
Osama Bin Laden succeeded. He has everybody in this country scared to death. A bunch of pansies living in fear.
"the fact that the mayor is no different than any other councilor and has no special powers"
It seems to me this is not about special powers this is about doing the right thing.
If a student was suppposed to get a free lunch and his parents had turned in the paperwork but somone at ther city didn't followup with the vendor, (even if the vendor was at fault) should the city not give the kid lunch?
I certainly believe that if the mayor had stepped in and said "why are we not just plowing this and dealing with the legal issue later" a lot of ill will could have been avoided.
A Mayor is supposed to be someone worthy of respect who looks out for the citizens.
quote: "So is the street passable now?"
Yes.
As a matter of fact, it looks better than the the rest of the one lane roadways the city called themselves plowing in that neighborhood.
I thought the city had done a good job during this last snow, but the streets in that particular section of town are terrible as far as being one lane only.
the "developer" appeared shady when he was interviewed by CBS 19.
The city has agreed in theory to accept the road upon infrastucture completion. The city could have resolves this situation by DOING THEIR JOB.
The residents did their job when they paid their real estate taxes and put faith in the city to do its share. Why should they have to picket the city to do its job?
Even if Mr. Banks is in the wrong it is the cities responsibility to deal with it on behalf of the residents. That is what the permit fee and bond were for.
I stand by my previous assertions that for 50 bucks worth of plowing the city could have avoided namounts worth of bad publicity and possibly exposing the taxpayers to a huge payout if something bad were to happen while they are wasing taxpayer dollars discussing this in heated offices.
The "no plow" list id there for "private" roads like town houses and hoas. This is a road in tansition because the city didn't do its job.
This is supposed to be a small town. Is the Mayor too big to help out these people?
No, Gasbag Self Ordained Expert, as commented by one of the resients in the previous story, the issue is not getting the street scraped of ice, it's getting the city to use Bobby Banks' $250k bond to finish the infrastructure work. I had noticed that on the TV news story that the resident interviewed by the press didn't seem to have any difficulty in driving on the street.
Even if the city were to use the bond, it is still under no obligation to accept the street for maintenance.
Charlottesville City Code
Sec. 29-260. Satisfactory completion of site-related improvements required.
(e) .... Nothing in this chapter, including the approval of a final plat, shall obligate the city to accept and take over for operation and maintenance any improvements completed by a subdivider as required by this chapter.
The guy shows up at city hall yelling that the city is racist, and he will now be the second person in history to have his bond pulled...
Please. Pull the race card in a city with an acting city manager that is black, with black city council members, one who is white with an adopted mixed child.
@Caesonia, I'm beginning to think J. seinfeld = Bobby Banks.
So did everyone who moved to Roy's Place lose their right to vote? No wonder they're pissed off.
Clearly the mayor was terrified of the brow-beating he was sure to suffer.
Funny how the people making too much noise in Belmont decide to make their case by making too much noise at a council meeting. Maybe someone who lives at Roy's Place ought to learn from that and haul a few wheel barrows of snow in and have a baby in the middle of it. That'll show that lazy mayor someone means business.
Unfortunately I did not hear the end of Matters by the Public; I was called away until ater it was over. However, there were not brave souls for the first half hour. I plan to check when the video is posted online and I will check. The Mayor wan't supposed to arrive before 9 PM, as Holly Edwards ran the meeting. Maybe they decided not to speak because the Mayor wasn't there or maybe he wasn't there because he didn't want to be dressed down in public. It's 9 PM and Council has gone into recess after a contingent of people opposed to lowering the decibel levels from restaurants in downtown Belmont started getting kind of roudy. They're not enduring their displeasure quietly even though nobody's having a baby and may need an ambulance. Ah, the priorites.
C'ville Eye, did any of our experts on government affairs take your suggestion and speak up at the council meeting? You know all those lazy by the book people needed to spur them into action was to be called out for their lack of "god judgement."
You still have time to get down to the Council meeting to give them a piece of your mind. Speak who do not speak up should suffer bad government in silence.
Actually, Speak who do not speak up WILL suffer bad government in silence. You need to speak during the section call Matters by the Public. It's at the beginning and end of the meeting so Council gives plenty of opportunity for you to speak.
"Contrary to CCs opion the Mayor has a duty to keep things runnibg smoothly and get involved. His most important job is to protect the residents from the Government."
-- Sorry, I couldn't resist.
"c)not smart enough to pass the buck upstairs and make the mayor take the heat. (elected officals should ALWAYS be the where the buck stops..." I think you need to go to the Counci meeting tonight in City Hall at 7 PM and tell them just that. Trust me, you'll feel better.
So CC, what you are saying is the TSA agent was on a power trip until he finally screwed up and got caught?
Sounds familiar. :)
Even Marion barry was smart enough to plow snow...
CC, You're so right. I wonder if anyone will go to Council's next meeting and espouse his position on the actions of the Mayor? Probably not for I'm sure they will be afraid of losing their food stamps or some other government handout. Maybe their down payment/closing costs assistance.