Asleep at the switch? Discrimination alleged at retirement community
Three months after Charlene Smith was fired, she's still angry about what she calls her "wrongful termination," and she alleges there's a pattern of discrimination against minority employees at Westminster-Canterbury of the Blue Ridge.
"I was falsely accused of sleeping on the job," says Smith, a certified nurse assistant who had worked at the posh Pantops retirement community for more than a year. She says she was folding laundry at the end of a double shift at 7am April 4 when a nurse she'd never seen before came in. When Smith returned to work that afternoon at 3pm, she was called into the nurse manager's office and told she was fired for sleeping.
"I was so upset," says Smith. "I was hysterical. I couldn't believe they'd make up something like that."
Smith contends that she was not asleep, but if she had been, she should have been written up like a white employee who was found sleeping three times, including once by the facility's chief executive officer– but who was not fired until a month after Smith's termination.
And that, Smith alleges, is a pattern at the facility, where black employees are fired for things that white employees do with impunity. She's filed a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
"I would have to disagree with her," says Suzanne White, director of human resources at Westminster-Canterbury, which employes 270 employees, 41 percent of whom are minorities. "We are a nondiscriminatory organization based on sex, race, religion, national origin, and age." White says that in the 16 years the facility has been open, there have been no other EEOC complaints.
Smith says there is only one black employee in management and no full-time black nurses work day shifts.
"There is one African American in our leadership group," confirms White, and that translates to eight percent of management.
White says Westminster's policy for those found sleeping is termination. "There is an investigation, then you meet with the employee to review. This is confirmed by the supervisor and a coworker," she explains.
That's not Smith's understanding of the consequence of dozing on the job. "The policy says send the employee home," she says. "That's what I heard at the [October 25, 2007, nurses] meeting. They will be sent home and talked to the next day. The policy says nothing about termination– even if it happened." She says she was never counseled about the incident.
"Maybe she didn't view it that she was being counseled," says White. "They asked her if she had been sleeping, and she confirmed the allegation." White adds that she was not present at Smith's exit interview, but says, "I have no reason to doubt that."
Smith vehemently denies that she was sleeping, and shows a reporter a copy of the termination papers she refused to sign because, she says, it was untrue: "It wasn't counseling– it was termination. I had no previous write-ups and no verbal warnings."
She also shows a stack of letters– recommendations from her previous employers at Piedmont Virginia Community College, UVA, and attorney Steve Rosenfield.
Buckingham native Smith, 37, a single mother, says she got her CNA license in 1990 so she'd always have a job to fall back on.
"I've never had any complaints from the Nursing Board until now," she says, the result of her dismissal from Westminster-Canterbury. "My unemployment benefits were turned down because of false accusations. Now they're trying to harm me by having my license suspended." She also says that by being fired on the spot, she lost her accrued vacation pay.
"If you leave without notice or are terminated, you forfeit those hours," White confirms.
Blondie Paige has worked five years as a part-time nurse at Westminster-Canterbury, and she says she's seen incidents that seem discriminatory, such as the white CNA who was not fired on the spot for sleeping. She mentions an African-American employee who worked there 16 years with no complaints and was fired for "patient abuse" on the word of another employee when he accidentally squirted water in the face of a resident he was bathing.
When Paige started working at the facility, she says, there were no other black nurses. "They kept saying, no black nurses would apply," says Paige. "I knew nurses who applied and were told there were no positions. One unit there still has no black nurses.
"I think the facility thinks because it's private, no one will complain," she continues. "They say we're in a right-to-work state– that's an implied threat."
Westminster does have a formal grievance procedure for employees who believe there's been an unfair application of procedure, White says, as well as an open door policy with management. "Every employee has a copy of that in the employee handbook," she says. "We review it on the first day."
"When I was hired, no one gave me a handbook," says Smith, nor was she offered the grievance options when she was terminated. Now she's looking at other grievance options: she's retained an attorney.
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Why if an African American gets fired its always racism. She admitted to sleeping. Westminster-Canterbury has a wonderful record so why is this news?
fox, apparently you can't read. She distinctly said she wasn't sleeping."Why if an African American gets fired its always racism." You don't have to been African American to see this is a blatantly racist statement.
YOU MUST NOT HAVE READ THE ARTICLE IN ITS ENTIRETY, WELL AT LEAST NOT THE KEY POINTS OF HER WANTING TO PURSUE THIS MATTER IN COURT...
¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??I was falsely accused of sleeping on the job,¢Ã¢â??¬ says Smith...¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??I was so upset,¢Ã¢â??¬ says Smith. ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??I was hysterical. I couldn't believe they'd make up something like that.¢Ã¢â??¬
...Smith contends that she was not asleep, but if she had been, she should have been written up like a white employee who was found sleeping three times, including once by the facility's chief executive officer¢Ã¢â??‰â?¬Å? but who was not fired until a month after Smith's termination...
...Smith vehemently denies that she was sleeping, and shows a reporter a copy of the termination papers she refused to sign because, she says, it was untrue: ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??It wasn't counseling¢Ã¢â??‰â?¬Å? it was termination. I had no previous write-ups and no verbal warnings.¢Ã¢â??¬...
...Blondie Paige has worked five years as a part-time nurse at Westminster-Canterbury, and she says she's seen incidents that seem discriminatory, such as the white CNA who was not fired on the spot for sleeping...
I HOPE YOU GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING NOW...IF THE SHOE WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT...YOU WOULD DO THE SAME THING!
THANK YOU, CVILLE EYE! YOU GOT IT BEFORE ME!!!! =)
I actually work at WCBR. Have been there for 5 years as a CNA. You arent getting the WHOLE story here nor does she explain "hysterical" accurately, she was IRATE, she verbally abused several employees on her way out, right in front of the residents. I was there, I saw it! She lacked professionalism the day she was terminated and refused to sign the termination paperwork because she has an issue with authority and she was pissed.
The part about the employee of 16 yrs wasnt the whole story either! He wasnt fired for spraying water, it was for more than that - he verbally abused a resident.
WCBR is a great place to live and to work. The management has been fair and I love my job! I dont think that race really had anything to do with any of this! I also dont think that they have a bias against hiring black people, there are tons of black employees! (I might mention that there is only 1 african american resident)....
People just like to complain and make a free penny wherever they can! If you cant see that.... then you are blind!
The girl caught sleeping WAS fired!
If she didnt get a handbook (which I doubt) then she should have asked for one...
whatever - this is all crazy! Just pulling the race card!simply, my opinion....if it matters at all...
It saddens me that anyone was try to discredit WCBR!
It's quite obvious that you had a personal problem with Smith and it sounds as though you are upset because WMCB has finally been exposed. YOU WILL BE STUCK MAKING $8.25 PER HOUR, cleaning nasty %$## for the rest of your natural life. It's obvious that you haven't been exposed to the finer things in life. The UVA School of Nursing is currenting accepting application for interested applicants. But perhaps you wouldn't qualify because you haven't learned how to spell. YOu Big dummy!!!I feel sorry for the 1 black resident who's probably being mistreated by people like you. Why did you feel the need to inform the public that WMCB has only 1 black residents. This indicates that maybe you and the facility are both racist. Thanks for sharing that information. Remember, if you support a racist....... YOU ARE A RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
whatever, you said "People just like to complain and make a free penny wherever they can! If you cant see that.... then you are blind!" Are you saying that the government is wasting hundreds of millions of dollars having the EEOC? No, we aren't getting the WHOLE story hear. That's the EEOC's job and, from what I hear, they do it pretty well. shatever said, "...she verbally abused several employees on her way out...She lacked professionalism the day she was terminated and refused to sign the termination paperwork because she has an issue with authority and she was pissed." Since this seemingly happened AFTER she was fired, what does that have to do with anything? Were you there when she had her conversation with the informer or her supervisor or just the exiting? If you overhead the actual conversation between Smith and her superiors then she's not the one behaving unprofessionally. And, no, it is not the responsiblity of an employee to ask for an employee manual. In today's work place, it is the responsibility of the employer to not only give an employee the manual but also to see to it that he understands it fully. You post alone justifies a complaint to the EEOC.
i strongly agree with smith and paige
Yes, I am an african american! I'm clearly recall feeling uncomfotable and unwelcomed the day when I stopped by WMCB in order to apply for a CNA position that was advertised in the newspaper. I completed the application and handed it to the HR personel who was very snobish and rude!!! Within a few days after I made numerous phone calls, I received a letter in the mail stating that they WMCB wasn't hiring at the current time. A week later the same exact advertisement was back in the newspaper again. Boy, am I glad that I was able to find someplace else I Now I see why they always keep ads in the paper. Why is there only 1 black employee in a management position out of 270 empoyees?
More of the Hook stirring up racism. Soon they'll be brought to answer for their own!
i also applied for a part-time position with WCBR and was told that they are looking for permanent persons only who has no intentions on climbing the career ladder.no position are guaranteed to be permanent. you can only do the best you can with any position.no i never gave it any other thought about WCBR until now.WCBR has a high profile to obtain. so of course they got to hide the racist issue.so a big THANK YOU to the lady who was fired and treated wrongly for bringing this issue to surface.
THANKS HOOK for such the article about discrimination @wcbr not WCBR
TO FOX WHITE IS NOT ALWAYS RIGHT!
oneday i stopped by this LUXURY RETIREMENT FACILITY also to apply for a job and I witnessed an black employee being humilulated right in from of me, over a stupid hotdog bun. WCBR staff and residents were having a picnic functioning. They ran out of buns or something, so the lady went inside to get ask if she could have one because they ran out. The racist cook started to get rude with the lady after she had already informed her that she was an employee but was off duty. I felt so ashamed for the lady. This incident made me feel uncomfortable and I immediately changed my mind about applying for the position because it's clear that they mistreat black employees. I don't know who in their right mind would want to work for them.......
Thanks Smith your my hero stick it out another job that wouldnt mistreat you will come your way!
This comment is to Whatever! You stated that you have been an employee at WCBR for 5 years and that "The management has been fair and I love my job! I dont think that race really had anything to do with any of this! I also dont think that they have a bias against hiring black people, there are tons of black employees! (I might mention that there is only 1 african american resident)¢Ã¢â??¬Š." If there are TONS of black employees than why aren't there TONS of Black full-time nurses on staff? Or maybe the reason is that because black nurses in the area don't apply? Yeah right!!! White admited herself that there is only 1 black employee in management which simly implies, that they have ONE only because they had to hire a certain percentage (wich she quoted as eight) in order to hide discrimination. That's why WCBR continue to treat blacks the way that they do is because of people like you. Were you present when either of the mentioned black employees were fired. Oh and thanks also for exposing that there are also only 1 black residents you just help strenghten smith's case because this proves that employees like you uphold racism!!!!
My only comment is that it's a new day. Everything that is done in the Dark shall come to the Light in one form or another. Smith please keep your head up because GOD will see you through anything.
OMG! AFTER READING ARTICLE, I 100% AGREE WITH SMITH! I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY HAD THE NERVE TO TERMINATE ANYONE, AS BAD AS THINGS ARE NOW A DAYS......IT'S SHAME THAT "AFRIAN AMERICANS'" HAVE TO PUT UP WITH ALL THIS CRAP! BUT GOT WILL FIX IT. SMITH, DONT WORRY ABOUT IT...GOD WILL BLESS YOU WITH A BETTER JOB AND MORE HOPE FOR THE FUTURE!
I hope Smith get paid nicely. Maybe then, those places that think they can treat blacks nastily will think twice. We are not standing back and letting others walk all over us anymore. Good Luck Smith.
HEY BOO IM GLAD U TAKING THIS A STEP FORWARD. THEY WAS STRONGLY WRONG FOR TREATING U LIKE THIS.EVERYTHING U DID FOR THEM U WORKED OVERTIME ALOT FOR THEM U COME HOME REALLY TIRED AND BARELY GET YOUR PROPER REST SO I KNO WHATS GOING ON CAUSE U COME HOME TELLING ME WHAT HAPPENED AT WORK.HOW ABOUT THE WHITE GIRL GOT CAUGHT BY THE CEO SLEEPING AND SHE DINT GET FIRED.THE WHITE GIRL I DONT KNO HER NAME BUT SHE GOT CAUGHT SLEEPING LIKE 3OR 4TIMES AND STILL DIDNT GET FIRED AND CHARLENE GET FIRED FOR WHAT.SO YOU'LL HATERS THAT DISAGREE WITH CHARLENE CAN HONESTLY SAY THIS IS NOT A RACIST ACT.SO U TELL ME WHAT IT IS.MY LADY WORKED LIKE A DOG AND THIS WHAT SHE GET FOR HELPING WEST MINISTER OUT WOOOOOW.IM BY U 150%BECAUSE I KNO U TELLING THE TRUTH. AND I HAVE 1 LAST QUESTIONED FOR THOSE PEOPLE DONT BELIVE MYSS. SMITH.WHY WOULD CHARLENE GO PUBLIC LIKE THIS IF SHE WASNT TELLING THE TRUTH,WHY WOULD SHE WASTE HER TIME,DID U EVER THINK ABOUT THAT HATERS GET UR MIND RIGHT AND GO BUY A LIFE,YOU'LL MAD BECAUSE SHE'S A STRONG BLACK QUEEN THAT STEP UP AND THAT KNOWS HER RIGHTS I LOVE U BABY MAKE THEM PAY FOR THAT RACIST DISWRONGLY ACT AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST WEST MINISTER U TRYING YO DESTROY AND TRYING TO TAKE HER LISENSE AWAY FROM HER FOR WHAT ITS NOT GO HAPPEN WHATS GOES AROUND COMES BACK AROUND 5TIMES WORST.AND I WILL BE AT COURT WITH HER AND I CANT WAIT TO SEE THE LOOK ON YOU'LL FACE WHEN YOU'LL LOOSE. U DEPRESSED HER FOR THE LAST TIME I HAVE TO SEE HER CRY AND GET EMOTIONAL AND STRESSED OUT MAN IM DONE BABY IM HEAR I LOVE U AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE ALRIGHT.......
I'm courious to know how was it possible for Smith to be counseled and terminated all in the same day. Did this happen on different occasions?
If not,then WCBR know that they wee wrong!!!!!!! She wasn't treated fairly and she should SUE THE PANTS OFF OF THEM. The Human Resourse person sounds racist herself if you ask me by one comment in particular, "Maybe she didn't view it that she was being counseled,¢Ã¢â??¬ says White. ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??They asked her if she had been sleeping, and she confirmed the allegation.¢Ã¢â??¬ White adds that she was not present at Smith's exit interview, but says, ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??I have no reason to doubt that.¢Ã¢â??¬ How would White know what anyone said when smith was fired when she admitted tht she wasn't present?????
I don't understand how or why unemployment benefits were denied. In a case I am familiar with and based on identical false accusations, and the employer contesting the unemployment claim, the person filing the claim still prevailed.
Furthermore, I don't think this case is based on racism at all. In the case I speak of several black employees were overlooked when sleeping on the job. It was a joke and laughed at in the office. But when a white employee was accused of it, he was terminated.
Sick, are you making up things for arguments sake? Your story seems too convenient. Was your example also involving the same employer or a different one? If different, maybe your employer did not contest the benefits.
I have worked at WCBR during the time that Charlene worked there and also have worked with her through a agency. I am a black CNA and have never been treated unfairly or felt that WCBR is prejudice at all. Charlene is not telling the whole truth about any of this. She is and always has been a negative & rude person. She is probably shopping this story around to any news outlet that will give her the time of day. Why doesn't she mention the deragatory comments that she made against the DON at WCBR several years ago that got her banned from there?
I was like to comment on this story. I commend you Smith for having the courage and heart to take on such a powerful organization. I know alot of blacks who were also wrongfully terminated by WCBR but they were afraid to do anything about it. I hope that the one(s) who are responsible will all get what they deserve!! God wont allow ANYONE, no matter how much money that they think that they may have, GOD wont allow you to continue to do people wrong. Sooner or later GOD will see that justice is prevailed. I never could understand why people always think that they can just mistreat people unfairly and think that Karma wont come back around to them. To all the racist managers and staff at WCBR, I feel sorry for you because you all will have to answer to the MAN UP ABOVE ONEDAY for all your wickness and deceitful acts that you've imposed on blacks for 16 years. When you go home at night, do you ever reflect back to how many lives that you have purposely destoyed by conspiring to fire employee because they aren't valued just because they are black?
I AM A WHITE CNA, if that matters. I'm sorry that you feel that way MISS!!! But if you or Human Resources(Ms. White)for that matter, felt as though Smith has always been a negative & rude person, THEN WHY IN THE HELL WOULD YOU HAVE REHIRED HER?? ummmm, Good question!! AFTER she was banned from WCBR serval years ago? You did mention "Several" years ago? Yeah right, she wasn't even working in the healthcare field several years ago, sorry!!! It sounds as though YOU are the one who isn't telling the whole truth, Get you facts straight before you start to write, You also stated, "Why doesn't SHE mention the deragatory comments that she made against the DON at WCBR several years ago that got her banned from there?" I think that you are drunk because Miss, This case is not about Smith making deragatory comments several years ago, it's about her being discriminated against, STUPID!! If she was banned from WCBR several years ago, how was it possible that she was able obtain a job there so soon afterwards. Stop living in the past and move forward!!! You just mad because you know that you all are racist and you have been exposed to the world for being discriminatory!!! HAhahahahahaha hahahahahahaha
First, I would like to address a comment to "You really dont know her well", I don't think that Smith has to shop her story around to news outlets, because anyone knows that bad news travels fast!!! YOU know that you were wrong for firing her!! It's obvious that you are trying to cover up your dirt by adding negative comments about Smith that is irelavent to mher case!!! Anyone who reads your comment also knows automatically that you are not a BLack CNA! Because if you were black you wouldn't have said "you never been treated unfairly or felt that WCBR is prejudice at all." What makes you so different from the rest? What BLACK person that you know who uses words like "Charlene is not telling the whole truth about any of this. She is and always has been a negative & rude person." You are faking your race here, ok. WCBR is a racist place to work and you know it! Good try, May GOD bless you for time and your effort
I myself was accused of Patient Abuse the Patient daughter stated that I slammed the patient down in her scoot chair and did not change the patient. This family member the patient daughter has her picks and choice of nurses assistant who she wants to take care of her mother she even went down stairs and told the people in the head office that she wanted certain CNA's to take care of her mother even give them a list of names But she was told that we did not have the staff for that and the cna's that she requested to take care of her mother has days off some times. Here is the incident that happened: I WAS TOLD BY THE HEAD NURSE TO GO INTO THE ROOM AND GET RESIDENT UP OUT OF BED BECAUSE THE DAUGHTER STATED TO HER THAT THE RSDIENT BEEN IN THE BED ALL DAY i GO IN TO THE RESIDENTS ROOM AND SEE THE RESIDENTS DAUGHTER PUTTING THE RESIDENT'S CLOTHES INTO A LAUDRY BAG I SAY HI! THE RESIDENTS DAUGHTER DOES NOT SAY HI BACK TO ME BUT SAYS" WHERE IS LISA?" I TELL RESIDENT DAUGHTER THAT LISA IS WITH ANOTHER RESIDENT RIGHT NOW AND I WAS TOLD BY THE HEAD NURSE TO COME IN HERE AND GET YOUR MOTHER UP BECAUSE SHE BEEN IN THE BED ALL DAY I GO TO THE RESIDENTS BED AND EXPLAIN TO HER WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO FOR HER( THIS RESIDENT IS DEMENTIA AND SOME TIMES COMBATIVED AND CONFUSED AT TIMES) I THEN PROCEEDED TO CHECK RESIDENTS PROVIDE (DIAPER) WHEN THE RESIDENT GOT TO FIGHTING AND BECOMING A LIITLE COMBATIVE I STATED TO RESIDENT IN CALM AND SWEET NICE VOICE TO CALM DOWN HONEY AND LET ME CHANGE YOU AND GET YOU UP OK SWEETY RESIDENT THEN CALM DOWN AND LET ME CHECK HER SHE LOOKED TO ME THAT SHE WAS DRY I RAISED UP RESIDENT BED SHE HAS A LOW BED WITH MATS DUE TO HER FALL RISK AND SAFETY I PULLED RESIDENT SCCOT CHAIR BESIDE HER BED USING THE STAND PIVOT TECHNIQUE I GENLTY PLACE RESIDENT IN HER SCOOT CHAIR I MADE SURE THAT RESIDENT WAS SAFELY I AND COMFORTABLE IN THE CHAIR AND LEFT THE RESIDENT WITH HER DAUGHTER.I GO INTO ANOTHER RESIDENT ROOM AND FEED HER WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS RESIDENT DAUGHTER( THE ONE I JUST GOT UP IN THE SCOOT CHAIR) GETS IN MY FACE AND YELLS I THOUGHT YOU AIDES CHANGED THESE RESIDENTS DIAPERS BEFORE YOU GOT THEM UP MY MOTHER IS SOAK AND WET i TOLD THE DAUGHTER IN A CALM VOICE THAT YOUR MOTHER WAS DRY WHEN I GOT HER UP THE DAUGHTER THEN LEFT THE ROOM THE NEXT THING I KNEW I WAS CALLED DOWN STAIRS IN THE BOARD ROOM AND ASK WHAT HAPPEN AND WHAT PROBLEM DO I HAVE WITH A FAMILY MEMBER. 1 I DID NOT KNOW I HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH A FAMILY MEMBER 2. THE STATE WAS IN THE BUILDING AND 3. THE DAUGHTER WAS IN THE ROOM WHEN I WAS DOING RESIDENT CARE FOR HER MOTHER AND 4. MY LICENSES WAS INVESTIGATED A WHILE BACK WHY WOULD I DO ANY PATIENT ABUSE KNOWING THAT I ALMOST LOST MY LICENSE AND THAT THE STATE AND THE RESIDENT DAUGHTER WAS /IS IN THE BUILDING NEEDLESS TO SAY I WAS SUSPEDED AND FIRED BECAUSE OF A LIE THAT THIS RESIDENT DAUGHTER TOLD ON ME . I WENT TO THE HUMAN RESOUCE OFFICE AND WAS TOLD THAT THEY HAD TO DO A BODY ASSEMENT AND THEY DID NOT FIND ANY BRUISES ON THE RESIDENT I ASKED WHY WAS I FIRED I WAS TOLD BECAUSE THE STATE WAS IN THE BUILDING AND BY A FAMILY MEMBER WRITTING A SERVICE COMPLAINT ABOUT ME THE PEOPLE FROM THE STATE HAD TO PULL MY FILE AND THEY WAS TOLD THAT THEY HAD TO LET ME GO OH YEAH BY THE WAY WE WILL GIVE YOU GOOD REFERENCE.
CVille Eye, no, I am not making up things. In one case a former commonwealth's attorney had to kick one employee in the shin to wake him up. Then the commonwealth's attorney lied about it. Needless to say, he didn't last very long in Charlottesville.
this is a message to "you really dont know her well".how dare you pretend to be black.why the hell would a person be eligible for re-hire if they was banned from such a place like wcbr years ago.it is quite obvious that you(white girl)and the wcbr crew has a personal problem with smith.and oh why was the don (former) fired a couple years ago if she was doing such a wonderful job?
For Whatever: Get your facts straight: 1. There are actually 2 African Americans that reside @ WCBR. 2. You don't know why the 16-yr employee was really fired. My mistake, Over a newly liscensed CNA, whom themselves was cursing in front of other residents (according to the VDHP is VERBAL ABUSE) But was not written up, because the person in charge didn't want any problems. 3. If you know so much about what is going on in management, then that means you aren't doing your job on the floor and other CNA's are taking up your slack. Stop sucking up and do you own work.
Charlene may have verbally abused folks on the way out, but who is happy about being fired? Besides it takes one person to fire someone. Not 1 plus an audience. Plus the girl was doing alot of overtime, perhaps covering one of your shifts Whatever?
Rascism is everywhere and not just against African Americans,When are folks going to stop playing the race card when they are blatlantly in the wrong. Piss off the right person, they might be the same color as you then what excuse will you use?
Ruthanne... READ THE FIRST 2 PARAGRAPHS AGAIN. She did not admit to sleeping on the job. You haven't ths slightest idea about WCBR's "record".
Ms White?
Let me guess.... The one African American in a leadership position must be the Director of Enviromental Service. Isn't that the standard?
I'm sorry to hear that you were also fired for being LIED on! That's exactly what WCBR do to BLACK CNA's. They work them like a dog and then they fire them whenever they want without conducting a full investigation! White seems to believes that "We are a nondiscriminatory organization based on sex, race, religion, national origin, and age.¢Ã¢â??¬
I also see that you wasted your time by going to the Human Resourse office to address the problem. What happened to the OPEN DOOR POLICY that white mentioned in Smith's article? "Westminster does have a formal grievance procedure for employees who believe there's been an unfair application of procedure, White says, as well as an open door policy with management." Did White mention to you greivence procedure? Probaly not and Of course White would say that, because she probably a racist herself! It sure sounds like there is a pattern of discrimination that goes on at WCBR. Thanks Smith for not letiing them to continue to get away with it.
I work at WCBR as a full time CNA and I have witnessed alot of racism going on. The BLACK CNA's aren''t treated fairly. The evening shift is always expected to work short staffed. Why, is it because we are BLACK? The only time that management smile in your face is when they want you to work overtime. We are so short of help right now. We dont get our full breaks because they work us like slaves. The management all keep attitudes and like today for example, one in particular walked around with a tight face as though she was angry with the world. She knows that she was wrong for firing Smith and the others without a valid reason. There are at least 12 BLACK employees that I know of that was fired within the last six months. I'm tired of having to walk on eggshells not knowing if I will be the next Black CNA on the firing list to be framed and fired. Im looking for a new job the first thing Monday morning.
My questions are directed to all the WCBR management staff in Healthcare who don't feel as they discriminate, because the POLICY states that they "are a nondiscriminatory organization based on sex, race, religion, national origin, and age."
Do you recall any of these events occuring?
1.What about the time when the TWO white CNA's who wasn't"FIRED" for failing to PROPERELY DOCUMENT A RESIDENT'S WHEREABOUTS, and the resident was discovered missing for days and who was lated fOUND DEAD across the street during X-MAS time several years ago.(Catered Living Unit)
2. the time when a white nurse(RN)was reported by several Black CNA's who were offended by the insulting degrading comments that she made which was directed at a group of black CNA's
(Healthcare Unit 3)
3. the time when it took several complaints from other black cna's in order for management to consider firing the WHITE CNA who was caught sleeping several times in a chair, including once by the facility's chief executive officer (Healthcare 3)
4.A elderly white CNA who has been allows to work at WCBR for the last 8 yrs who isn't just computer illiterate but illiterate in general because she can't read or write.(Vista Unit)
5.the time when a white cna was reported for "PATIENT ABUSE" and who wasn't "fired on the spot" like the other 4 black cnA's who were fired on the spot but, instead the white CNA was transfered to a different department( Catered Living)
6. the time that a Head Nurse felt that it was legitimate for her to call in because her "DOG was sick!" (Healthcare 2)
7. the time when a white RN receives frequent visits from her boyfriend who wasn't an employee, but is allowed to follow her around on the unit while she's working 9including following her in the patients rooms while she passed medicine.) Separate occasions------But management took discilplinary actions against a black CNA who conversated with her sister who happened to work at WCBR (environmental services at the time) for neglecting to do her job assignment, as the other white CNA's who were also taking to the same person they weren't written up for doing the same thing.(Healthcare 3)
8. white employees are always seem eligible to receive educational scholarship funding, but the black CNA's are denied for reasons such as they have had discipinary actions against them in the past, etc.
9. The White employee who has been employed at WCBR for over 5 yrs, who is allowed to arrive at work DAILY being tardy, and who is allowed to call in whenever she wants, but when a black CNA called in 'twice" she was written up because management considered twice as being "A PATTERN"
I'm sure that I could go on for hours addressing the discriminatory acts that goes on at WCBR, but I won't. However, I do have two final questions; Do you think that any of the white employees that I've mentioned, should have been "fired" or at least "disciplined" for the wrongful things that they have done according WCBR company's policy? How can the Black CNA's not feel as though they have been discriminated against? I'm sure that the public also would like to hear your reply
I have known Smith for over 30 yrs and I know that she would not make up these allegations for the sake of arguement! Smith was a good worker and she was wrongfully terminated. I think that WCBR should treat all employees equally. I have heard about many stories involving racial jokes that have been made by racist staff. For example, the time when man who walks with a limp made a racial comment when He told an black employee that "he couldn't find her without the lights being on!" She felt humiliated by the racist comment even though she is a black light complextion female employee.
If you witnessed her sleeping "every" night, WHAT WAS YOU AND THE SUPERVISOR, DOING? Obviously you were't doing your job by reporting it!
This comment is to "witness", did you witness the CNA who was sleeping by the CEO as he came unexpectingly off of the elevator?
This comment is to "witness" did you witness the CNA who was caught sleeping by the CHEIF EXCUTIVE OF OPPERATION as he arrived unexpectingly of the elevator?
Correction adressed to witness. You wasn't doing your job by "NOT" reporting it!
"Witness," you stated that Smith slept every night. Did you witness the confused male resident a week ago, who wasn't being watched and who happpen to make his way to another female resident and tempted to sexual carress her?
I have been keeping up with this blog and it really amazes me on how racism still exist...you can clearly tell who has racist characteristics by reading the blogs...you know who is black and who is white. At the end of the day...it does seem like a racist/unfair act by Smith being fired. Even if she did fall asleep on the job...it does not take away the fact that another white employee was caught several times but recently got terminated. Uhhh, hello....you can not deny that does not seem awkward. Then, I am not understanding that how can the general public be upset with her for pursuing this...uhhhh, its her business so let her be. Or, is it the fact that she's correct and your jobs are in jeopardy???? And, if she is making it up...she'll look like a fool...not you...so go on with your life and wait for the outcome. Its childish to make negative blogs about somebody...Misery loves company and its Sorrow! And, for real...i dont even know Smith but I remember her face around Charlottesville but it really shocks me that suppose to be "GROWNUPS" is knocking down someone's character and for what???? Everybody needs to grow up and Smith you keep doing your thing because its a lot of unfair employers here and its about time somebody took a stand! A lot of blacks get fired everyday on some B.S. and they might say they will take the employer to court and it stops there, but you are actually pursuing this and I commend you and more for the fact that you are taking on a lot of heat...Smith, May God Bless you and DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THE HATERS...THEY JUST WANT TO TAKE YOUR PLACE! Because, the more and more people hate...you're building her up...and, if you think something like this would hurt her case...nawww, things get worse, then they get better and she will blossom through this all...keep pressing on Smith! Maybe Obama should be President...its time for a CHANGE! (I know I said something to strike a nerve in somebody..if so, who cares!!!)Be Blessed!
I also work at WCBR and have been discriminated against. But guess what, I'm white. It's not so much a black/white thing up there as it is a rich/poor thing. I'm poor white trash and I get treated as such, only difference is I'm not considered a minority and dont have any EOC to back me up.
And to scratching the surface, two things, first there are 3 African american residents, not two and not that it matters. WCBR is based on money. If you have it you can get in, white, black, jewish, doesnt matter, money talks.
Second, about "The one African American in a leadership position" you forgot to mention she was brought in from out of state by the CEO, not because she was black or white but because he knew that she knew her job. He wanted someone that could run that department, he didnt care what color she was. She's done a decent job of it I might add.
I don't know cerise, don't know if she was sleeping or not, don't know if others were or not but one thing I do know is its not so much what you do but who catches you doing it. A lot of supervisors are understanding, nightshift is hard, they know it and they are likely to let someone off with a verbal if they catch them sleeping. But if like a couple months back the state dept comes in and catches 3 people sleeping, those people are fired on the spot. It's all about perceptions. Not what is, but what seems to be.
Maybe its discrimination, maybe not, but its the way the world works, everywhere, deal with it.
Oh one last thing, cerise says she wasn't sleeping, she was folding linens? I don't get this since linens are delivered on a cart to the floors, already folded. Explain please?
you are on the wrong page.come again.you know you are not poor white trash.please!!! stop you are too funny portraying to be something you are NOT!
My comment is to "employee," who considers herself to be labled as being "poor white trash", I'm sorry, but I never stated that I was folding anyone's "LINEN," PLease re-read the article correctly, I stated that I was folding LAUNDRY at the end of a double shift. Washing Laundry for the resident's happens to be included in the work assinments of all CNA's at WCBR. Laundry actually means like; pants, shirts, socks, bras, underwear. When have YOU ever seen these items mentioned folded and delivered on carts to the floors? Never! There is a reason why EACH UNIT HAS THEIR OWN LAUNDRY ROOM. Take a minute out of your schedulde to tour each of them, ok? Oh and you mentioned, "The one African American in a leadership position¢Ã¢â??¬ that was brought in from out of state by the CEO, I beleives that she is the manager in the dept of Environmental Service, isn't that correct. Wooooooooow and Thanks also for making your racist comment as well, "Maybe its discrimination, maybe not, but its the way the world works, everywhere, deal with it." Sorry, we minorities don't have to put of discrimination because our rights are protected by the VA code 39
First of all I would like to say that this is the 21st century and I have two small daughters that I am trying to raise in a world free of color lines, in a world where a person is a person, no matter if you are black, white, purple, male, female, Jewish or Christian, everyone has feelings and everyone deserves respect. It astounds me that these types of things are still issues today. With that being said, I don't think that it is needed for each person who posts on this board to state their race in the very first sentence, race should not matter, if you have something to say then you have something to say. Next, although WCBR is a place of employment for many people, first and foremost it is a home to a whole lot of people who have nothing to do with this. A home that for the people who live there, should still have some shred of privacy and dignity. It is against the law to discuss freely and openly some of the things that happen in this type of facility that has to do with patient care. It is a major HIPPA violation. And I don't think that any one of you would want your hospital or doctors office talking about you or your care on the computer, to everyone else in the state. So can we please just stick to the issue at hand, and keep this appropriate, and leave the residents of WCBR who have nothing to do with this at all, out of it please????
to'correct me if i'm wrong' i dont feel the things that are being discussed is so much about the care of patients but about issues dealing with fairness;you do know what that is dont you? that is also a violation.the care of the patients is VERY IMPORTANT they come first.the comment about HIPPA is very much the truth but no names are mentioned and it is very clear there are some unhappy employees who need there job so they just deal with the unfairness.
HIPPA is defined as the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996. Therefore, No one has discussed any issues relating to a residents' HEALTH CARE.....
I thank you for explaining the linen/laundry situation, I wasnt saying it wasn't true I was saying I didnt understand it. Thats why it says - "explain please"
Thank you for saying I'm not poor white trash, I like to think I'm not also but many people seem to disagree. I don't need to post specific incidences of being discriminated against, just know that it's happened. I've been there about 3 years now and I've been through a lot of things and seen even more. I have been disciplined for things that others have not. I have not been allowed to do things that others have, some were black, some were white, doesn't matter they were allowed more leniency then I was. A lot comes down to friendships, like high school the place is filled with cliques and if your not with them, they're against you.
And why do you keep harping on the fact that the ES supervisor is black? Do you think ES is not an important job? She worked hard to get there and deserves some respect. Her job is as important if not more so then any other supervisor there! I'd like to see you do her job, or any job in ES for that matter for a week. Want to see what it feels like to get looked down on, give it a try.
As to discussing residents and such, I don't see anything that could be taken as a violation of Hippa as no names have been mentioned or identities given away, but I have seen some very nasty comments about certain employees which if you work there would not be hard to figure who is being talked about. It may not be a violation of any law but it is unkind and hurtful!
Oh and I would like to take the time to tour each unit but I'm too busy cleaning up after the CNA's and others (both black & white) who think they're too good to clean up their own mess.
The bottom line is Smith got fired on the spot with no counseling or verbal warning. Not even a chance to defend herself against the person who claims to have walked in on her SLEEPING.
Another employee who repeadly got caught sleeping(which I witnessed the CEO walk in on her) and nothing was done. But because of who she was she still remained employed.
After Smith was fired the other employee was caught sleeping once again for the 3rd or 4th time and was finally terminated. Only because they just fired Smith, if it wasn't for that she would probably still be employed with WCBR.
Why is Smith being criticized for speaking out? She is the voice of many African American people who are afraid to speak on their own behalf. Afraid of losing their jobs if they speak their mind.
It's clear that WBCR has a BIG PROBLEM with racism. They only have 1 african american in the Leadership Program (in response to Employee) she may have came in from out of state because she knew her job HOUSEKEEPING. Is that the only thing african americans are capable of being in charge of is cleaning? Out of all the management positions at WCBR it's really hard to believe that african americans aren't qualified to do anything except be in charge of cleaning.
The problem seems to start with human resources, telling applicants their are no openings when there really is.
Once again the bottom line is RIGHT IS RIGHT and WRONG IS WRONG. Im glad someone has enough courage to fight for what she believes in. Hopefully one day AFRICAN AMERICANS WILL BE TREATED EQUALLY.
I have read these blogs and my head hurts.
Think about how pointless this has all become.
Ok, so Smith has a complaint, she made it legal, let it go - let it run its legal course. Theres nothing that any of us can do to make it any different. We all just waste time talking about it and reading this blog.
If you feel discriminated against, file your own complaint.
We are all entitled to do that.
She wanted attention and shes getting it. She wants money, and, she'll get it.
I'm surprised that her legal adviser hasn't advised her to not post here. or her "boo"...
ugh, whatever.
If you arent happy at westminister, find another place to work at.
to"MY HEAD HURTS'haha let me guess you are a racist too. too bad sooooooooo sad you all stick together.your head dont hurt the TRUTH hurt. guess you got to blame your pain on something or someone. have a dose of reality it will make you feel soooooo much better!
to "my head hurts" then stop reading the blogs! as simple as that. no better remedy than that!
to smith:step back and let the legal department take it from here.we hear you and agree with you
to "my head hurts" duh! did you bother to read the article? she is no longer there. how can you be so stupid to make that last statement? why you hatin on the fact that she has a "boo" that is supporting her through all of this? and why you have to comment with a 'ugh" and a whatever? are you lacking a boo perhaps?
ugh! huh its a shame (my head hurts)that u r so stupid to the fact that u dont have anything else BETTER to do but to get on the hook and start things are u mad because Smith is right about this discrimination or r U A racist and mad that u ARE not her.YES iam her boo and yes iam sticking by her.so this IS what U do (migrain headache)go find u a man to play with because the hook is for grown folks black,white,Yellow,orange not A RACIST LIKE YOURSELF. AND P.S GO TO WALGREENS AND GET SOMETHING FOR UR HEADACHE BECAUSE U R WORRYING UR BACK IN THE DAY RACIST SELF HOW ABOUT THAT SO U NEED TO CHILLAX AND IM DONE SO U DONT KNO US SO U NEED TO STOP TALIKNG ABOUT US. THANK U AND HAVE A BLESS LYFE WITH THE (Y)..........................
thanks for having SMITH back "her boo".and to all who think this is a money issue:why is when a person come forward with situations dealing with unfairness it has to be a money issue? and to the person with the big headache problem perhaps a little"boo" in your life might take away that stressful headache you have.so what the person with the headache and all the other haters who is a discriminist get together and hold hands and sing the song"we are the world" meaning not just you and wcbr
ugh! huh its a shame (my head hurts)that u r so stupid to the fact that u dont have anything else BETTER to do but to get on the hook and start things are u mad because Smith is right about this discrimination or r U A racist and mad that u ARE not her.YES iam her boo and yes iam sticking by her.so this IS what U do (migrain headache)go find u a man to play with because the hook is for grown folks black,white,Yellow,orange not A RACIST LIKE YOURSELF. AND P.S GO TO WALGREENS AND GET SOMETHING FOR UR HEADACHE BECAUSE U R WORRYING UR BACK IN THE DAY RACIST SELF HOW ABOUT THAT SO U NEED TO CHILLAX AND IM DONE SO U DONT KNO US SO U NEED TO STOP TALIKNG ABOUT US. THANK U AND HAVE A BLESS LYFE WITH THE (Y)¢Ã¢â??¬Š¢Ã¢â??¬Š¢Ã¢â??¬Š¢Ã¢â??¬Š¢Ã¢â??¬Š¢Ã¢â??¬Š¢Ã¢â??¬Š¢Ã¢â??¬Š..
Oh my god, did you type this on a cell phone with "U", "UR" "LYFE". Go back to school and grow up.
its a shame that u are so ignorant.im not go stoop to ur level I talk the way I want to to talk u ZERO
this is a comment to"learn how to talk and type".obviously you are someone who is 55 and over. obviously you"re stuck in time because anyone who keeps up with shorthand english would know how to interpret it. you got the picture.here is what you do: go read a book and listen to some opera and good night and oh don't forget to soak your dentures
Shorthand english is one thing, it's usually pretty easy to figure out, u = you, ur = your ect but these posts lack a common knowledge of the english language!
Sure, use your shorthand english if your too lazy to type it all out. But please use proper grammar and spelling if possible. The worst offenses I've seen -
"witnessed an black employee" an is used if the next word begins with a vowel, otherwise "a" should be used
"THEY WAS STRONGLY WRONG FOR TREATING U LIKE THIS." Should be were instead of was
"WHATS GOES AROUND COMES BACK AROUND 5TIMES WORST" no "s" on what, should be worse not worst.
"12 BLACK employees that I know of that was fired" again were, not was.
"white CNA who has been allows to work at WCBR" allowed is the proper tense
"your head dont hurt the TRUTH hurt" doesn't not don't
"and why you have to comment with a ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?Å?ugh¢Ã¢â??¬ and a whatever?" did you just forget the "do" before "you have" or do you speak like this as well?
There are many more examples, I just picked out a few. Let's also not forget punctuation and how it should be used. A misplaced or lack of a comma can make all the difference in the world!
If you want the world to look upon you as asmart, intelligent person who may have some valid points, you need to present yourself as such. Speaking or writing in a low class way will only make people think of you as low class. As for shorthand, that just makes you come across as lazy.
to english teacher: did you mean to say "a smart" or is that proper grammar as well? you can point out all the bad grammar and misplaced commas and this thing still spell or should we say spells discrimination or did we not spell that right? it is or how do you want to spell it? obvious that you hold a position at wcbr." oops! i left out "it is".well this site is not about proper grammar or shorthand.let us or "let's get back to the issue or issues at hand. to english teacher; school will be opening soon so sit back and enjoy the rest of your vacation .thank you for taking the time out to teach us some"proper grammar"
oops! i forget the'r' in supporter
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THIS IS TO THE ENGLISH UNDER PAID (TAECHER). OOOPS I SPELLED TEACHER (WRONG MY BAD MASSA). YOU ARE ONE DUMB OLD BAT I KNO YOU.YOU ARE EMPLOYED BY THE RACIST WCBR WHAT A WASTE.WHAT POINT ARE (U) TRYING TO PROVE, OH IM GOING TO USE PROPER GRAMMAR SINCE U HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH ME USING (SLANG) MY BAD AGAIN I DIDNT SPELL "YOU" OUT HAHAHAHAHAHA. HOW MUCH ARE U MAKING UNDER 30K WOOOOOOOOOOW. I MAKE MORE THEN YOU FOR WHAT TYPE OF WORK THAT I DO HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. MADDAM WHAT I ADVISE YOU TO DO GO WORK FOR A MAJORITY BLACK WORK PLACE AND SEE HOW COOL AND NICE WE BLACK AMERICANS REALLY ARE DO THAT."NAW" YOU WOULD'T DO THAT GOODBYE AND LEAVE WELL ALONE..............
To the so called "English Teacher." You just made a complete fool out of yourself! Please proof read the second paragragh that YOU wrote. I believe that the word "your" should have been spelled "YOU ARE". This case isn't about people using improper grammar it's about how WCBR discriminates against minorities. My "man" happens to social interact with a diversity of people, unlike you!!!!
by the way thank your friends at wcbr for finally hiring a full time day shift nurse(black).
What exactly is a "boo"? I am 30 years old and not familiar with that term. I'm completely serious.
to"i'm curious" boo is just a nick name for someone special in your life.now on your farm your pig might be your "boo".
To the Human Resource Manager at WCBR, you are finally making progress... Oh my GOd!!! WOW, you have RECENTLY decided to hire a few BLACK nurses(full-time day shift)! :- :-)
to"i'm curious" and"english teacher" you need to stick to the topic at hand'discrimination'. not bad grammar or a"boo".i don't feel like when this whole case go to court the judge is not going to penalize anyone for bad grammar or for having a"boo". correction:if this situation go to court."english teacher" i'm sure there is someone out there who really need or want your help. stay off this cite or site because you completely lost sight of the subject.this story will come to an end one day but not "DISCRIMINATION".let's not forget"FREEDOM OF SPEECH" not free of speech :meaning you can't tell people how to talk.
correction;the word "not" in the second paragraph was an error and need to be removed.typo error
To the fake school teacher. Who are you to look down on anyone? Were you too "lazy" to proof read your own blog before submitting it? You made quite a few spelling errors yourself..... I guess this makes you appear to the readers as being a "contradicting low class dummy!" You had the odasity to write........ "If you want the world to look upon you as asmart, intelligent person who may have some valid points, you need to present yourself as such. Speaking or writing in a low class way will only make people think of you as low class. As for shorthand, that just makes you come across as lazy." Go back to college and take some refresher courses before you attempt to belittler others.....
The only thing I can say is..."What in the world is going on"? I am totally confused...How did this turn into College English 101???? Who cares how someone type, talk, shorthand, longhand, slang, ebonics or whatever the case might be???? It is different types of writing styles anyway...Found on an online encyclopedia..."Writing style is the manner in which a writer addresses a matter in prose, a manner which reveals the writer's personality, or 'voice.' It is particularly evident in the choices the writer makes in syntactical structures, diction, and figures of thought".
At the end of the day its off of the subject, SMITH WAS AND FELT DISCRIMINATED AGAINST! Stop trying to throw nonsense in this situation to get her upset.(Smith and her Boo- DO NOT/TRY NOT to post comments about anything on this blog, because these HATERS are trying their best to get to you and you do not want dumb mess like this to surface while you're in court...because they WOULD LIKE for you to get mad, nasty, or disrespectful and throw it in your face. [Which you're not bringing it to them like that at ALL!]As I have said in my prior blogs...keep doing your thing and GOD will see you through...Behind every good Man; its a good Woman...In your case, Behind every good Woman; its a good Man! You have a good support system and stay that way! A lot of these woman wish they had a man/boo to back them up in the smallest things as, "taking the groceries in the house". LOL)
Let the judge decide her case and not everyone else, because its childish that everyone is trying to knock her down...And, for what???? A person that speaks someone down means they are not happy with themself within...point blank, so you try to find/make up negative things... Nobody is being sued by Smith on this blog, so why is it affecting sooooo many people??? GROW UP everyone, you guys suppose to be my elders but you're acting younger than my peers! And, I am in my mid-late 20s and I do not act simple like this...LORD HAVE MERCY ON THESE WEIRDOS!!!! Meaning...its a PROBLEM and you should find something in life to make you happy, because you're not if you feel like you have to down the next person to glorify yourself. And, I dare for someone to say something out of the way to me in a negative way...Don't even bother because if you do...I struck a nerve and it will be revealed that you all are HATERS against Smith!!!! And, best believe...You will REAP what you SOW!!!! Do unto others, as you will have them do unto you! Amen.
Yes i made a couple errors, I didn't hit space between "a" and "smart, thats called a typo. I did use the wrong instance of "your" someone caught me on that one. To kp009, I think you are wrong about all the spelling errors unless you mean the parts that are quoted from others. They were quoted with errors to show the errors.
I am by no means saying I am perfect, I am only saying (and believe it or not, trying to help) If you want to be taken seriously stop talking like ghetto thugs! Boo, the best thing you could do would probably be to stand behind Charlene QUIETLY. I am sure you do make more then me, I hear a good wheeler and dealer can make a few grand a night in "da hood" If you take offense at that comment go back and read your posts and see how they come across. I don't know if you're a thug or not but that's how you present yourself. But as Charlene says you do "happens to social interact with a diversity of people" Maybe you should find some new people to hang around with because you do get judged by those you hang around with.
No the case is not about spelling or grammar but do you think when this gets in a courtroom those things won't come into play? You'll get much more sympathy from a jury if you can present yourself as educated, intelligent and wrongfully terminated then if you present yourself as a uneducated black girl from da hood.
Now I'm going to enjoy the rest of my paid vacation and thank god I don't work at WCBR.
"English Teacher", SHUT THE HELL UP!!!! What in the hell is wrong with you???? You should be ashamed of yourself totally! Oh my goosh! I am speechless and its not me you're directing this at. Your entire approach is unprofessional, racist, and just pure childish...I wish I knew who you were because I would go straight to the School Board and have your job immediately...And, you are really teaching are kids at school??? Are you serious???
Come on honey...if you have kids that's why racism can not die because of people like you poisoning them with nonsense. Why are you still on this blog??? For what, to share your racist views??? Why are you knocking down somebody...you're acting pathetic, unhappy, miserable, and the whole 9 yards...Oh my goosh...I am speechless. What if someone addressed you or your family as trailor park trash, honky, pink toe, whitey, powder, casper, white cracker and so on...it would not feel nice at all. You have made a bad display for your culture and you should be ashamed of yourself. And, instead of you enjoying the rest of your vacation you should have went to PVCC and took refreshment courses because if you knew something about English writing you would know that it is different forms of writing styles. Oh I know what it is...you're not really a teacher..you're a "teachers' aide"!
Honey, you need to grow up and stay off this blog because you're only starting confusion and spreading the disease of racism. You will have a first class ticket straight to HELL and Charlene and her boo and the rest of us other "ghetto thugs" will be passing you going to HEAVEN to say, "Wut up" to Jesus!!!
And, for you to make a comment like, "I am sure you do make more then me, I hear a good wheeler and dealer can make a few grand a night in ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??da hood¢Ã¢â??¬ If you take offense at that comment go back and read your posts and see how they come across." If that's the case...your daddy might be one of his top clients! Uhhhh, you made me stoop to your level of ignorance.. (God please forgive me!!!) You make me vomit! Remember, do unto others as you will have them do unto you...At the end of the day, we all bleed the same color blood but yours is a little dirty than everybody else's! People like you deserve to have ya'll own planet... Now I really hope Obama is President...A change is needed! I will pray for you...
After reading through your post kia, I sure hope someone is teaching your kids the right way to write! Now tell me how my post is racist? Nowhere did I ever say a wheeler, dealer or thug has to be black. That is an assumption you made. Believe me I have seen plenty of little white "wannabe ganstas and thugs". I would no more want my children hanging around with them then with black "thugs" It has nothing to do with race but with attitude.
Yes there are many styles of writing and thats great for creative writing class if you want a certain flavor to a story you've written. In everyday society though proper english is spoken and respected.
By the way I'm sure telling someone to - "Shut the hell up" will guarantee your place in heaven
How exactly is Obama being elected POTUS going to change anything being discussed in this topic?
Is it not apparent to you at this point that this facility employees the most (un)der educated citizens? - its cheaper!
Makes sense-
With the lack of education comes a whole slew of problems and issues. When people feel like the world owes them special privileges simply because of their race, it all goes to hell in a hand basket.
The place messed up when they didn't fire the first girl on the spot, they didn't mess up when they fired Smith. Its policy. She was neglectful of her patients. She should loose her license, I know I wouldn't want her to care for my parents... or sleep while they paid her to do her job. Think about the facts here, with blinders to color on....
My advice to all, go to college! Get an education! Don't settle for being walked all over.
2(the english teacher and to dear teacher)woooooooow im about to get ghetto on you'll bolonga smelling wet dogs.you'll 2 mad because this not the error of the 1800s, sorry we R 2 strong. we have rights now u saying get aN education look SNOWFLAKES, look at THE black wealthy folks NOW. look at tv. have u seen ANY OF us (l.o.l)if u dont kno what that mean it means laugh out loud .look at oprah i kno u want to be like her she gives you'll white women money cause you'll need it.AND U GOT THE NERVE TO TALK ABOUT SMITH SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN FIRED U R CRUEL AND U R GOING TO HELL AND BURN IN HELL WITH HITLER YOU'LL ARE JUST LIKE HIM TRY THAT MESS NOW U RACIST NOTHING. GROW UP AND GO TO A HILLBILLY BAR AND GET DRUNK AND TAKE OFF ALL UR CLOTHES AND DO THE HONKY TONK DANCE.GO SING THE SONG ACHKY BREAKY HEART BECAUSE YOU'LL HEARTS GOING TO BE BROKEN WHEN SMITH WINS HER CASE ....AND YOU BOTH GO TAKE YOU'LL DRIED UP STANKY BEHINDS ON CHERRY AVE.AND GO MAKE MY MONEY...... OH AND BY THE WAY U TALKED ABOUT KIA KIDS BUT YOU'LL WHITE DAUGHTERS LOVE BLACK MEN ONCE THEY GO BLACK THEY WILL NEVER EVER GO BACK WHITE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
First of all English Teacher...yes, I will still have that ticket to Heaven because I will REPENT FOR MY SINS and I have a good heart but you and your ways...its too deep in your blood...that's how you were raised, how you feel, and how you think. It's pathetic! Its all on how you come across to people and how you came across was uncalled for. Anyone would have taken what you stated and would be offended by it...what is all this, "gansgta and wannabe thugs" have to do with anything. You are sterotyping someone off of their language??? Are you serious??? What about Bush??? He can't speak a lick so is he a thug or trailor park trash??? Which one...YOU voted for him!!!
And, my kids...I only have one child and she's not going to school yet and still have many years to go. I was saying it as a cliche' by stating, "... teaching our kids...". And, when she go...she will be ready...and, why...i am college educated and hold other certificates for other trades. Matter of fact, I am starting school again for another major. Not to brag but ALL of my siblings went to college and graduated and we are doing VERY WELL! So, please do not stereotype someone based off of this blog...I have a good paying job and its LEGAL...government type work should I say...I can't say no more . Just because a person writes a certain way does not mean they speak that way on every day life. I know how to write/talk professional, techinical, narrative, and so on...I have no one to impress on this blog so its no point for me to sound like I am writing a 5 page report...I am not getting paid for these services.
How come you guys are mad that Charlene Smith filed a discrimination report??? That's what I can not understand... The government made laws for this reason; if you were discriminated against, I hope you would do the same thing. And, everyone is acting like at one point Blacks could drink from the same water fountain as a Whites. Why do you think Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr had a "DREAM"..for "EVERYBODY RIGHTS" not for only blacks, but for "ALL PEOPLE" and Obama has that same DREAM!!! That's why he should be President, "Sick of the Local Rambos"! Our people helped build this country so I know he would do a heck of a job running it! Its a lot of people that have been poisoned out here and Obama will be able to spread some light...
And, to "Dear Teacher", if you were trying to "get at" someone (not saying me, because I am not in the RN, CNA, or LPN field) by posting..."Is it not apparent to you at this point that this facility employees the most (un)der educated citizens? - its cheaper!"
LOL...You're basically talking about the white people that work there is (un)der educated citizens. And, its not nice...if you are reading the correct article and blogs....its more white staff than blacks, matter of fact, I am thinking around three or four blacks now, well at least that's what someone has posted in a few blogs back. And, that's one of the problems WCBR is having, because they do not hire a lot of black employees. Maybe the English Teacher could tutor you for the rest of the summer...
The staff must have to have an education somewhere if they passed their State Board test to get a license to do the work...they might just be underpaid...Did you ever think about that?!?
I hope ya'll face is tight like Botox just got injected in it when Charlene and her Boo win in VICTORY! I thank God my parents raised me to LOVE ALL PEOPLE and I was not injected with this poison called, RACISM!
kia, Obama would hang his head in shame if he saw the spelling, grammar and syntax used in most of the replies here in this topic. The public school system should hang it's head in shame as well.
"The Dumbing of America" took on a new meaning when this thread was born as well. And that's a fact.
its ironic. Smith was fired for sleeping on the job. Basically getting paid for sleeping. Kia has a government type job, wonder if her boss knows he is actually paying her to write blogs.I was concerned where all the support was from WCBR, a really great company by the way and now I know. All those "racist" employees kia and others are bashing are actually working,doing the job they were paid to do. What a concept. Have you considered that an incident may have occured but that doesnt make everyone here racist.One person wrote- Ok, so Smith has a complaint, she made it legal, let it go - let it run its legal course. Theres nothing that any of us can do to make it any different. We all just waste time talking about it and reading this blog.
If you feel discriminated against, file your own complaint.
We are all entitled to do that. There has not been a lawsuit filed against WCBR as of yet. If WCBR was wrong, Smith will reap the benefits of attention and money.Plain and simple. But to label everyone here as trash, racist, stupid, etc. is just wrong.To sit in judgement and decide who is going to heaven and hell based on comments from a blog is laughable. The president of WCBR summed it all up at the all staff meeting yesterday when he said" Racism is not just legally wrong. It is wrong here (pointing to head) and here (heart). Cant we leave it at that?
HR DIRECTOR MS WHITE SHOWED PICTURES ON A HUGE SCREEN AT WCBR'S STAFF MEETING YESTERDAY. THE PICTURES WERE FROM FAMILY DAY AT THE PARK. A BLACK BOY WAS IN ONE OF THE PICTURES AND MS.RACIST, FAT,UGLY WHITE SAYS "HERES ONE OF OUR FUTURE WAITERS" UNBELIEVABLE WITH EVERYTHING SHE HAS CAUSED SHE WOULD SAY SOMETHING THIS STUPID.....DID SHE NOT CONSIDER THAT HE COULD BE OUR FUTURE PRESIDENT OR ACCOUNTANT OR DIRECTOR? IS IT JUST ME???
"Sick of The Local Rambos" are you serious??? What is wrong with this world??? I used Obama as a good example of CHANGE is needed in the world. Now you guys is basing off of grammar and whatever else because you know RACISM STILL LIVES because its in your heart...If you have a problem with someone going to the court for justice for discrimination and you are of another color or the same color...then its a problem. They make laws to protect EVERYONE for race, color, creed, religion, and so on...We are called, "THE MELTING POT"!
Charlene Smith is not going to the court for grammar, spelling, nor syntax used in these blogs...She's going because she felt/was discriminated against. "IF" Charlene was sleeping on the job and was fired on spot, but another white employee was caught several times and was not terminated...then, that is called discrimination...point blank! But, then they decided to terminate the white lady due to this uproar... You can not beat around that, so DO NOT try!
EXAMPLE:
So, lets say you worked for a company who staff is black with only two to three white employees (by law you have to have a diverse workplace and why do you think that law was passed through the Senate...ughhh, companies were discriminating! DUH!!!)and a black employee was caught several times surfing the web, instead of, doing their job but their manager joked about it...in the same breath...you were caught the next shift by the same manager, but you were fired on spot...Do you think that is discrimination...I do! Its different forms of racism and discrimination.
Maybe you guys do not know what it feels like/what it is to be discriminated against because, you have not walked in a black person shoes. You have never been told "NO" because the color of your skin; you did not have to stand up to let a black person sit down on a bus; you was not forced to drink out of a seperate water fountain; you did not have to create "The Underground Railroad" to free slaves; you was not told you could not learn because you were black; you was not forced to leave your homeland to be put as slaves; you were not mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually abused due to the color of your skin...should I say more. You are so BLIND that you can not see discrimination because you have never been discriminated against; if anyone have felt/was discriminated on they would know and they would back Charlene up... If these things have never happened to you due to the color of your skin and you think those ways were good, then you can not say NOTHING! You are better with your mouth SHUT!!!
THAT'S THE BIG PICTURE...and, if you ladies can not read nor comprehend that...You guys make up "THE DUMBING OF AMERICA"! And, if you are addressing that to everyone that has posted a blog, then you're talking about yourself and your buddies...because you have taken part with these blogs as well...
By the way, Obama would raise his head up and say, IT IS WORK TO BE DONE!!! He would put his head in shame if he read the comments people have written against Charlene Smith, her boo; and if every black, white, mexican, indian, or whatever nationality that was offended by the comments that have been posted by you and your buddies...
And, I am thinking that people is not worrying about sounding soooo great...stop being narrow minded and realize that we're just getting our thoughts out. Do you think a tech writer is going to talk technical all day...ughhh, NO!!! I have a different approach when I am at work...everyone does...MOST AMERICANS DO NOT TALK HOW THEY WRITE...THEY DO NOT ACT THE SAME WAY AT WORK THAN WHAT THEY DO AT HOME...come on now...get a brain. Do you sound like a flake all the time to your friends/family??? I hope NOT!!!
HOW COME YOU GUYS OUR MAD THAT CHARLENE SMITH AND HER BOO WANT JUSTICE??? "IF" CHARLENE IS FABRICATING...WHO IS THAT HURTING AT THE END OF THE DAY...NOT YOU! HOW CAN SOMEONE SAY, "When people feel like the world owes them special privileges simply because of their race, it all goes to hell in a hand basket." THEY MADE LAWS FOR THIS REASON...FOR PEOPLE LIKE YA'LL!!! YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE "YOU" DESERVE SPECIAL PRIVILEGES AND TO BE HONEST...YOU DONT!!! HOW CAN YOU BE UPSET FOR SMITH GOING PUBLIC??? IF THE SHOE WAS ON YOUR FOOT...I WOULD HAVE THE SAME VIEWS AND I WOULD BACK YOU UP...IT WOULD NOT MATTER WHAT COLOR NOR RELIGION YOU WERE...RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WRONG IS WRONG!!! SO, STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR UNLAWFUL ACTS... IT'S TIME FOR GROWN-UPS TO GROW UP!!!!
You suppose to gain Wisdom with age--NOT ignorance! I know I am younger than you ladies, but I much maturer...it seems like I am talking to kids... Maybe ya'll need to be schooled, because the only thing that is coming out of ya'll is ignorance!!! I know what I am saying is right and its out of love...you ladies have bitterness, hate, racism, and ignorance in your blood. I hope your parents did not raise you to be such MONSTERS, if so, the apple did not fall too far from the tree!!! YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW!!!
"Get back to Work!!!" I am not bashing anyone...I am wondering why is everyone bashing Smith...Please, pay attention.And, you are making a statement that my boss is paying me to type blogs...MY BOSS SENT ME THE LINK and know the blogs I post because I send them to him, so please come correct!!! And, he's ashamed about this mess, because he said it makes him look bad because, he's a WHITE MAN!!! FYI-- At my job... we are allowed to be on the internet as long as we do not abuse the internet. Also, I am on VACATION now and I am allowed to be on MY HOME COMPUTER IF I WANT!!!
And, I am not stating that everyone at your job is racist, but if someone can not understand why Smith feels the way she feel then something is wrong...pont blank!!! Also, I am replying back to the ones that made comments to my blogs...I DON'T understand why there is an uproar about Smith making a complaint...that's what I am trying to figure out...I am not racist...I LOVE ALL PEOPLE!!!
And, I know that none of us can make a difference...its a FREEDOM OF SPEECH, too...right!?! And, you're wasting your time like everyone else by placing blogs, too...So, if you feel that way...you should not have responded or why did you even come to this article??? Let me see...to state something NEGATIVE, of course!!! And, I was being sarcastic and making a joke about the HEAVEN and HELL...I am not the judge of that...duh, only GOD!
And, why do you have to state about receiving attention and money about Smith...can things just be morally wrong and she wants to make sure no one else is treated like that??? And, the "attention" part...you're giving her attention by placing blogs as well....YOU'RE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF!!! RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WRONG IS WRONG...And, how it's presented to us in THE HOOK...Smith has every right to feel how she feel...I am only wondering why everybody else is giving her grief and that's it!!
quote, kia: " Now you guys is basing off of grammar and whatever else because you know RACISM STILL LIVES because its in your heart¢Ã¢â??¬Š"
kia, yes, I am serious. And it's not a racial issue. Know why? Because I don't know who is black, white, purple, green or orange here in this discussion.
Look at your own grammar and syntax in the above quote. You brought Obama into this conversation. And I am telling you he would hang his head in shame while reading these replies. If he doesn't start laughing first.
If it is a "racial" issue then the solution is to FIRE ANYONE THAT SLEEPS ON THE FRIGGIN JOB!!!!
Black people tell me all the time that there are "too many" blacks in jail.
Not true... there are TOO FEW whites in jail because they get lawyers that get them off. A black person who puts a gun in someones face is not suddenly forgiven because a white person managed to get off for the same crime. Lock em all up.
there is a show coming on tv on the "CNN" station called "BLACK IN AMERICA" ON THURSDAY JULY 17 AT 9:00 please watch this show "sick of the local rambos and "get back to work",...etc.if you are sick of the local rambo stay off this site because people are going to continue to respond to it.
to the person impersonating to be "BILL COSBY" BILL COSBY would'nt waste his time on this site with commenters like these.now get off this site and go suck on a jello pudding pop
YOU PEOPLE ARE SO IGNORANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I READ THE HOOK ALL THE TIME AND BY FAR, THIS IS THE MOST IGNORANT BUNCH OF COMMENTS I'VE EVER READ IN MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!! IT SEEMS TO ME AND A GROUP OF FRIENDS THAT MS. SMITH AND MAYBE TWO OR THREE PEOPLE ARE JUST READING THE BLOGS AND COMMENTING BUT CHANGING THEIR NAMES. IF SO, YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO GET A LIFE. YOU MADE YOUR POINT SO RELAX AND ACTUALLY LET YOUR !LAWYER! TAKE CARE OF THINGS! SOON YOU(SMITH) WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO GET A JOB IN CHARLOTTESVILLE PERIOD IF YOU KEEP THIS UP! SO STOP IT. IT'S PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO MAKE NORMAL BLACK PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF LOOK STUPID! I HOPE YOU WIN YOUR CASE AND GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE. AND NO I'M NOT HATING, I WORK HARD FOR MY MONEY AND I DON'T HAVE TO GO AROUND SUING PEOPLE FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M JUST SICK OF YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS' COMMENTS. GROW UP. IF YOU WORKED FOR ME I WOULD HAVE FIRED YOU TOO BECAUSE SOMETHING IS OBVIOUSLY WRONG WITH YOU OR WHO EVER IS PRETENDING TO BE YOU. GET A LIFE ASAP. LIFE IS TOOOO SHORT TO BE STUCK ON SOMETHING AS STUPID AS THIS!
This comment is to SHUT UP. I've been keeping up with this blog and I noticed that you made a comment that could be considerd by many to be racial. "YOU PEOPLE ARE SO IGNORANT" No, that's the problem, you and others think that "we people are so ignorant," but we are not... We all have a Freedom of speech which is being able to speak freely without censorship. Our rights, to the freedom of speech happen to be guaranteed under the international law through numerous human-rights instruments, notably under Article 19. We also have the right to work in a workplace FREE FROM DISCRIMINATION(See Virginia Code 39).
This site wasn't just designed for the caucasians in the cummunity, it was designed for "everyone" meaning "anyone" who's capable of typing, reading, writing, spelling and comprehending. I strongly suggest that you and the rest of your friends(co-workers that is, at WCBR), simply get back to work my friend. If Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was alive today that he would say; today, my friends, so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream........... I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."
Dr. Martin Luther King may be dead, but racism is still alive.........
I didn't have my glasses on before. I apologize for misspelling the word community.
ENGLISH TEACHER I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. JESSIE JACKSON...YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD YOUR "GLASSES" ON WHEN YOU READ THE PART OF MY COMMENT WHEN I STATED "IT'S PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO MAKE NORMAL BLACK PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF LOOK STUPID!"...MEAN I'M A BLACK PERSON. A STRONG, INDEPENDENT, BLACK WOMAN I SHOULD ADD. MAYBE YOU, YOUR BOO, AND YOUR CNA FRIENDS SHOULD GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND GET A BETTER EDUCATION. YOU ALL SEEM VERY IGNORANT AND INSECURE! THEY FIRED SMITH AND SHOULD HAVE. BASED ON HER REPUTATION...I CAN BELIEVE SHE WAS ASLEEP BECAUSE SHE'S NO MORE THAN A LAZY, IMPATIENT, RUDE PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET OVER IT AND STOP MAKING UP NAMES AND COMMENTING THINK EVERYONE IS A WHITE WCBR EMPLOYEE WHOSE AFTER YOU. PARANOIA IS SOMETHING ISN'T IT! HA,HA,HA. OH, I'M NOT AN EMPLOYEE AT WCBR EITHER! I ACTUALLY ON A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS HERE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, SWEETIE. HA,HA,HA.
OH, YOU SHOULD REALLY KEEP DR. KING AND OBAMA'S NAMES OUT OF THIS. YOU'RE A DISGRACE!
Your comment was "We also have the right to work in a workplace FREE FROM DISCRIMINATION(See Virginia Code 39)."
Isn't Virginia an "at will" state? Meaning "any hiring is presumed to be "at will; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all, and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work."
Racism? My butt! There was a time when laws were needed to protect black people from being discriminated against. The time is past! They have gotten their equal rights and more, now it's the white people who get discriminated against.
Companies are so scared of getting discrimination charges filed against them that they will hire an under qualified black person over a qualified white person. I've seen it happen; I've been that qualified white person! I have management experience yet when I put in with a certain local store I wasn't even called in for an interview. I thought ok someone didn't like the way I looked or talked or whatever. Out of curiosity I went in a few weeks later and saw who got the job. A young black girl I have worked with before who had no management experience at all. Reverse discrimination at it's finest!
Now if I was black I might have had that job. Not only that but if I wanted to go to college I could get money from the United Negro (do they still call it that?) college fund. If I was a pretty girl I could be in the Miss Black America pageant and if I'm bored I can turn on the Black Entertainment Television. Oh and I almost forgot I have a whole month to study my history!
Can you imagine if there was a Miss White America pageant or a White Entertainment Television??? They would be accused of being racist white supremacist and I'm sure the government would force them to close the doors!
An American white college fund, riiiiggggght, I see discrimination suits out the wazoo! And by the way where are my laws to protect me when I'm discriminated against? Will the EEOC come and stand behind me?
Ms. Kia why do you presume everyone posting here are ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??ladies¢Ã¢â??¬ Do you think no men post? Her Boo is obviously a man (if not we're getting into a whole different issue aren't we?) and from reading comments I would guess a few others are as well. People assume things and you seem very guilty of that. You assume the sex and race of the posters, are you not doing this by the way their posts sound, are you not stereotyping?
Also Ms kia you said to the white people - you did not have to stand up to let a black person sit down on a bus; you was not forced to drink out of a separate water fountain; you did not have to create ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??The Underground Railroad¢Ã¢â??¬ to free slaves; you was not told you could not learn because you were black; you was not forced to leave your homeland to be put as slaves; you were not mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually abused due to the color of your skin¢Ã¢â??¬Šshould I say more.
Let me ask you, when was the last time you had to drink out of a separate water fountain? When was the last time you had to stand up to let a white person sit down? Were you told you couldn't learn because you are black? Were you forced to leave your homeland? By the way congratulations on creating the underground railroad, I didn't realize you did that, I thought it was the admirable Harriet Tubman.
You say - If these things have never happened to you due to the color of your skin then you can not say NOTHING! You are better with your mouth SHUT!!! - So tell me when did those things happen to you?
Yes black people in the past were oppressed, no doubt. I didn't oppress them and you weren't oppressed. Maybe my ancestors owe yours an apology (although from what I can dig up my ancestors came over as indentured servants) but I personally owe you nothing. So chill out, go turn on your BET and relax, fill out some paperwork and I'll bet you can get that next college degree paid for by UNCF! A mind is a terrible thing to waste!
To "To Jessie Jackson" Yeah VA maybe a ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??at will¢Ã¢â??¬ state? Meaning ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??any hiring is presumed to be ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??at will; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all, and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work.¢Ã¢â??¬ HOWEVER, THERE ARE LABOR LAWS FOR DISCRIMINATION! Please check out the EEOC website sweetie.....
U SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU RODEO RIDER L.O.L JUMP UP AND CLICK YOUR HEELS.OH YOU ARE NOT NORMAL EITHER U CLOWN GO BACK TO THE CIRCUS
VERY WELL SAID VIRGINIa!!!
MR. HAHAHAHAHA & TO SHUT UP! OR SHOULD I SAY HER "BOO", YOU SEEM PRETTY PSYCHOTIC MY FRIEND. THE NAME CALLING IS SO ELEMENTARY. GROW UP, "BOO". I'M A STRONG BLACK WOMAN, AS I SAID BEFORE, NOT A RODEO RIDER. IF ONE OF THESE WHITE PEOPLE WOULD GO OFF AND CALL ONE OF YOU THE N WORD, I BET YOU WOULD GO OFF. THE WAY IT SEEMS, YOU'RE THE RACIST "BOO"!!!!!!!!! YOU'RE MAKING YOURSELF SEEM REALLY STUPID. ENOUGH WITH THIS BLOGGING BECAUSE YOU HAVE MADE A COMPLETE FOOL OF YOURSELF! STOP TAKING UP FOR SMITH. YOU MUST NOT KNOW HER THAT WELL. WHAT IS IT THAT YOU DO FOR A LIVING? AND WHY WERE YOU UP COMMENTING ON THIS BLOG AT ONE IN THE MORNING? UMMMM...NO LIFE. MAYBE NO JOB EITHER. NEITHER. JUST A LITTLE PSYCHOTIC!
"Virginia" and "English Teacher" you both sound like a RACIST, which have been confirmed by a good friend of mines who's an attorney. So, I hope your last blog posted WAS your last blog...
I tried to be vague and kind of unprofessional with these blogs due to the field I am in, but I can easily use my field to my advantage to call up some of my buddies...have you located easily within seconds...have papers served...and you can be prosecuted.
So, hey "English Teacher" I can have your job before school starts and unemployment, will not be an option. OK?!? =)
Before your lips start to crinkle like a raisin...my advice to you is to keep your mouth shut!!! If you do not have anything positive to say at all on this blog then stay off...you are the poison in this society today.
"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."
To Kia, thanks for sharing your views on the topic "ALLEGED DISCRIMINATION AT RETIREMENT COMMUNITY". I'm sure that you and others have stepped on alot of narrow-minded people toes by expressing your thoughts... I only pray that things will get better for the rest of the minority employees at WCBR.
To "SHUT UP" and to the "ENGLISH TEACHER", I am by no means an "uneducated racist black girl from the hood." Instead, IM A VICTIM OF DICRIMINATION... Maybe,if the WCBR scholarship fund wasn't just created for the "WHITE EMPLOYEES" I would have maybe considered completing my "NURSING DEGREE" opposed to just not attending college and majoring in "NURSING". I'm not understanding why the public or anyone for that matter is disconcerted with me, because I decided to file a discrimination claim against WCBR with the EEOC. None of you actually know what really happened the day that I was terminated, so let's not be to quick to be condemnatory. WCBR has been racist for years and have gotten away with it due employees not exercising their rights. My final comment is to everyone, PLEASE leave the children, pigs, Big Bubba, snowflake, the N word, etc. out of this discussion because it's all childish and immature. The topic is DISCRIMINATION!!!!! I'm not worried about the outcome of my case ,because the Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? PSALMS 27:1
TO "English Teacher", did you catch the misspelling in DISCRIMINATION? May God bless you too, for "only trying to help"......
"Final Comment" thank you! I was just totally blown by this article and the negative blogs that have been posted. I wish you the best and stay strong...Be Blessed!
"Never be afraid to try ¢Ã¢â??‰â?¬Å? remember, amateurs built the ark; professionals built the Titanic...The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you..."
Charlene, I am assuming that you are "Final Comment" You just lost your case with this post. You are claiming racial discrimination yet not only are you rasict yourself, you could very well be sued for slander against WCBR. You just cant let EEOC do there job can you? What credibility you may have had (and it was anyones guess as to what really happened that day) is now gone. Kia has been no help to either as up until this last point she was fairly dignified and now is actually making threats of harrasement and exposure of certain persons posting blogs she doesnt agree with!!! you have really stooped to a whole new level kia. Im not making a threats like Kia I am promising you that copies of this blog will be sent to the EEOC and attached to your case. Good luck now!!!
Ms Kia, your attorney friend confirmed that I'm a racist???? LOL does he know me? Have we conversed about it over beers at the local pub? Thats just too funny! And you're going to prosecute me for it??? Even if I was a racist I don't think thats against the law. People are still allowed to think and feel what they want. It may not be that way for long but as of now it still holds true.
You think you can find me? Try. I cover my tracks better then you. There are advantages to being in the IT field ;) You think it can't be seen that you have been posting under different names besides Kia? or your IP addy? In case you don't know what that is it's your internet address. It doesn't always give a specific location but it does give the service provider and if that place has a static IP a physical location can be seen. You're not always anonymous on the internet. a good thing to remember.
Now back to the racist thing, please point out where in my post I was racist because I sure don't see it. Racist means I don't like a person souly based on their race or some other factor such as age, sex, or orientation. So in this case it would mean I didn't like you souly for the fact you're black (if you are) First off I don't know what color you are, you've never said I don't think. So unless I did actually know who you are how would I know if you're black? Second off the reason I don't like you is because you're ignorant, not because of your race! You give black people a bad name. Your the type of person that causes racism! People of other races run into a bunch of ignorant people who happen to be black and they start thinking all black people are ignorant and bam, a racist is born!
Did you notice that SHUT UP said she is a black woman? She also said that you are making black people look bad. I'm sure shes not the only one to think that, just the only one with enough balls (not a sexual comment) to say so. Kudos to you Ms. SHUT UP!!! You exemplify what I was trying to get across.
Also Ms Kia I think telling the teacher you can have her job could be considered an internet threat so you should be very careful with that.
By the way you didn't answer my questions? when was the last time you had to drink from a different water fountain then the white folks? When was the last time you were made to give up your seat on the bus to a white person? And when was it that you yourself had to create the underground railroad??? Give me a break Ms Kia! If you ever have faced discrimination in your life it wasn't of this sort. That was your ancestors and they fought it, and they overcame it and they should be proud of themselves. I know I admire the hell out of them for it. I'll bet they wouldn't be so proud of you though.
To the person who is going to send copies of the blog to the EEOC, please do! Great idea I may do the same myself. Just to make sure they take notice. I hope WCBR is also copying it down each day so they'll have it for court if needed.
Final Comment (Charlene) - You do come across more educated and professional then the people who are trying to "back you up" Ms Kia and your Boo can do nothing but hurt your case with their posts here and I hope either they or you will realize this and tell them to hush. I'm surprised your lawyer hasn't advised you and your family/friends/anyone involved with the case to not post on here. You really could hurt yourself by doing so.
In closing I'll say, Charlene, if you were truly discriminated against I hope you win and I hope they change their ways. but if instead it's shown to be a case more of favoritism then racism I hope they win and I hope there is as much publicity for them if they win as there is for you right now.
Good luck to all in this case, to Charlene, to WCBR and to all the poor employees there who are caught in the middle.
THIS IS FOR "VIRGINIA",VIRGINIA IS FOR LOVERS NOT RACIST HONEY.
quote" "I can easily use my field to my advantage to call up some of my buddies¢Ã¢â??¬Šhave you located easily within seconds¢Ã¢â??¬Šhave papers served¢Ã¢â??¬Šand you can be prosecuted.
So, hey ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??English Teacher¢Ã¢â??¬ I can have your job before school starts and unemployment, will not be an option. OK?!? =)
That's just plain hilarious right thar!
The entire thread is a freak show now.
to "shut up" will you please go back and look at the time "get back to work" posted this blog you will see that it was right around the time i wanted to post this blog
NO maybe you guys are not racist....you guys are just MISERABLE! MISERY LOVES COMPANY AND ITS SORROW... As I stated prior, I DO NOT KNOW CHARLENE SMITH AT ALL...I have not placed no other blogs on this page besides "Kia". What are you talking about? See, you assumed and you have made an .... of yourself!
I have been discriminated against and it does not feel good at all. That's the reason I understand where Charlene is coming from.
And, the English Teacher should be terminated because I would not want someone with those views teaching NO ONE kids, because favoritism could be shown.
Then, to comment on...By the way you didn't answer my questions? when was the last time you had to drink from a different water fountain then the white folks? When was the last time you were made to give up your seat on the bus to a white person? And when was it that you yourself had to create the underground railroad???
I was using those statements as examples. If you have not faced the hardships of being black, then you should say nothing. I HAVE!
But, have you anwsered my questions??? NO! Am I worried about it, NO! My life is too great and stress free! I am not responding to this blog anymore because its a HEADACHE!!! I wish you guys the best at what you do...
Glad to see somebody finally got back to work and has a computer and Interent access to use.
Kia, you little girl have made some serious threats against some of the bloggers here and you need to explain yourself. YOu lost all credibility when you did that and just who the h-ll do you think you are? Threatening peoples jobs because you dont agree with what they have to say. You must think you are god, who are you to hand out judgement? you make me sick.
Ms. Kia, you may not be posting anymore but I'll bet you check back and read so I'll go ahead and reply to you.
It's possible the other posters are not you but they are posting from the same IP addy as you. Maybe you're posting from work and theres someone else there who is also doing so?
You say I haven't answered your questions? I didn't see where you directed any to me. You had some general questions thrown out in your posts before I ever posted but I didn't think they were directed to me since I hadn't posted before. I checked your posts after the time I started posting and really don't see any questions asked of me. If you'd like to ask me directly go ahead, I'll be glad to answer them.
If you're referring to your "when was the last time ...." questions. The answer would be - never, because I wasn't around in the time those things were happening, just as you weren't. Thats my whole point.Everyone has been discriminated against for something at some point in their life I would think. Maybe for being black, maybe for being mexican, asian, female, old, gay ect. Maybe even for being white. Sometimes it's subtle, its not always as blatant as having to drink out of a separate water fountain. So no those things didn't happen to me but they didn't happen to you either.
I'm glad your life is so great and stressfree, the tone of your blog posts had me really thinking otherwise ;) I'm sorry though that you have a headache, what was the advice given to the other blogger who had a headache from all of this? Oh yeah, "too bad so sad, your head dont hurt the TRUTH hurt, maybe you need a little boo in your life, go to walgreens and get something for that headache" and lastly, "stop reading this blog, simple as that." Hope you feel better soon.
Saying the actions of one member of any group make the whole group "look bad" is both the origin and the essence of prejudice
"Virginia".
Virginia, probably a good thing she did shut up and leave. I doubt her employer would back her at all in some of her previous comments here. I imagine they would be rather upset.
quote, kia: "I tried to be vague and kind of unprofessional with these blogs due to the field I am in, but I can easily use my field to my advantage to call up some of my buddies¢Ã¢â??¬Šhave you located easily within seconds¢Ã¢â??¬Šhave papers served¢Ã¢â??¬Šand you can be prosecuted.
This comment cracks me up too, as if kia has ever personally experienced any of these things.
quote, kia: "You have never been told ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??NO¢Ã¢â??¬ because the color of your skin; you did not have to stand up to let a black person sit down on a bus; you was not forced to drink out of a seperate water fountain; you did not have to create ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??The Underground Railroad¢Ã¢â??¬ to free slaves; you was not told you could not learn because you were black; you was not forced to leave your homeland to be put as slaves; you were not mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually abused due to the color of your skin¢Ã¢â??¬Šshould I say more."
When did this blog turn into bashing Kia??? But, you're not a racist? Hmmmm, could have fooled me. I understand why she have a headache and its not from not having a boo...its from you two!!! And, it could just be a figure of speech but you guys seem narrow minded anyway. And, it cracks me up that you are picking with her to get her to respond. But,I am glad she is being the ADULT in this! Miserable Old Hags!!! LOL If you ladies or men are not racist; maybe you have racist tendencies. But, it's the society we still live in today. =(
Blah, blah, blah. Sorry, the "racism" term isn't the latest buzz word anymore. Now its about being "green"!!! The racism term got thrown around so much and used as an excuse by so many to justify their actions that its actually sad.
Virginia, in order for you to see the IP addr of a poster, means only one thing. You work for the Hook.
That's what I thought Steve. Does the Hook have any other explanation? If not what is the Hook going to do about a staff person making these kind of comments on their blog?
Come on people, wake up! It's sorta obvious Virginia was bluffing kia.
But, even if Virginia does have access to IP addresses, and what she says is true, who cares? If people are using multiple user names here, they need to be exposed. More power to Virginia.
If he or she works for the Hook, the only way he or she would have access to IP addresses I can think of, than he or she should be open about it and not pose as an ordinary reader. Beyond that, her statements/comments do not reflect well on The Hook at all, see "You give black people a bad name. Your the type of person that causes racism!" and " Racist means I don't like a person souly based on their race or some other factor such as age, sex, or orientation." Um, that's what racist means? No, the terms would be racist, agist, sexist and heterosexist. And the old you didn't have to drink from a separate water fountain your parents did line is apologist and lame. Anyone 50 or a little younger in this town went to segregated schools or was kept out of school due to massive resistance and they certainly experienced racism as children themselves and to pretend racism doesn't exist now or is just little stuff? Why did C'ville have one of the worst records on African Americans getting lousy mortgages with the same credit score as whites who got decent mortgages? That was not the past, that was last year.
I would still like to see The Hook confirm or deny that "Virginia" works for the Hook.
No i don't work for the hook and no thats not the only way to see IP addys. Maybe for the average person but not for the "3lite" (look it up)There are many programs out there which can enable you to do this if you know what you're doing.
You are right on the agist, sexist ect. I guess I should have said being bigoted would mean not liking someone because of those things. Obviously you got my point though.
As for anyone the age of 50, you know what, I'm not 50 or near so I wasn't there, I will say to the people that happened to that It's a shame that happened to you and I'm glad things aren't like that now. I did no wrong though and I don't owe anyone an apology. My point is Kia wasn't there either, she says herself that she is in her mid - late 20's so she was not there either and is not owed an apology for those things! If my using that is lame then her example of it is just as lame or moreso.
I stand by my comment that the stupid uneducated posts made by people who happen to be black do make black people look bad You know, the ones calling white people snowflakes and telling them to go dance achey breaky heart in a bar. Or the ones yelling (using all caps on the net is considerd yelling) that someone is just like hitler and going to BURN IN HELL for it. And yes its things like that that cause racism. It's not just on the board here, its real life too. When the only black people that a white person encounters are throwing insults at them and acting threatning they get to thinking all black people are like that. Its the same thing as if the only white people a black person encounters are rednecks who pitch beer bottles at them out of a pick up truck and yell insults. They're going to develop a hatred of white people. They become racist.
Luckily for most of us these are not the only types of people we encounter. Most of us get to know people of other races who are educated or nice or caring and we realize that there is good and bad in every race. Why is this so hard to understand????
The bank question - couldn't tell you, I'm not a banker, nor do I own a house (even with my 720 credit score)
Ms. Allison, I am not saying racism does not exist or that it is little stuff. What I am saying is the race card is waaaaaay overused! The laws are great and should be there to protect people when needed but when they are overused it's like the boy who cried wolf, when there is a real case of racism people don't listen because they're so sick of it being used on things that truly were not.
As I said before if it truly was discrimination I hope she wins. If proven not to be then I hope wcbr gets as much press to clear their name as she's gotten. Simple isn't it?
I have read Kia's blog and she never mentioned she went through those things. She used them as an example. Please, read what she said once again "Virginia":
EXAMPLE:
So, lets say you worked for a company who staff is black with only two to three white employees (by law you have to have a diverse workplace and why do you think that law was passed through the Senate¢Ã¢â??¬Šughhh, companies were discriminating! DUH!!!)and a black employee was caught several times surfing the web, instead of, doing their job but their manager joked about it¢Ã¢â??¬Šin the same breath¢Ã¢â??¬Šyou were caught the next shift by the same manager, but you were fired on spot¢Ã¢â??¬ŠDo you think that is discrimination¢Ã¢â??¬ŠI do! Its different forms of racism and discrimination.
Maybe you guys do not know what it feels like/what it is to be discriminated against because, you have not walked in a black person shoes. You have never been told ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??NO¢Ã¢â??¬ because the color of your skin; you did not have to stand up to let a black person sit down on a bus; you was not forced to drink out of a seperate water fountain; you did not have to create ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??The Underground Railroad¢Ã¢â??¬ to free slaves; you was not told you could not learn because you were black; you was not forced to leave your homeland to be put as slaves; you were not mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually abused due to the color of your skin¢Ã¢â??¬Šshould I say more. You are so BLIND that you can not see discrimination because you have never been discriminated against; if anyone have felt/was discriminated on they would know and they would back Charlene up¢Ã¢â??¬Š If these things have never happened to you due to the color of your skin and you think those ways were good, then you can not say NOTHING! You are better with your mouth SHUT!!!
Now you read what you wrote her and see if it sounds racists or kind of questionable.
SOME OF "VIRGINIA'S" COMMENTS:
1. Now if I was black I might have had that job. Not only that but if I wanted to go to college I could get money from the United Negro (do they still call it that?) college fund. If I was a pretty girl I could be in the Miss Black America pageant and if I'm bored I can turn on the Black Entertainment Television. Oh and I almost forgot I have a whole month to study my history!
2. So chill out, go turn on your BET and relax, fill out some paperwork and I'll bet you can get that next college degree paid for by UNCF! A mind is a terrible thing to waste!
3. That was your ancestors and they fought it, and they overcame it and they should be proud of themselves. I know I admire the hell out of them for it. I'll bet they wouldn't be so proud of you though.
4. I'm glad your life is so great and stressfree, the tone of your blog posts had me really thinking otherwise ;) I'm sorry though that you have a headache, what was the advice given to the other blogger who had a headache from all of this? Oh yeah, ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??too bad so sad, your head dont hurt the TRUTH hurt, maybe you need a little boo in your life, go to walgreens and get something for that headache¢Ã¢â??¬ and lastly, ¢Ã¢â??¬Ã?â??stop reading this blog, simple as that.¢Ã¢â??¬ Hope you feel better soon.
Okay, so what do you think?
She is a young black woman taking up for her heritage, the same way you would do for yours. She stated she have faced discrimination. Discrimination is discrimination. It should not happen, it could be something small to something bigger, but its still discrimination. She did not make racist comments...she said, you would not like if someone treated you that way. She was wondering why everyone was giving Charlene grief but now men/women is showing her grief. For what? Maybe this is the treatment and the character of the people Charlene Smith received at WCBR. If so, she will win! The actions you and others are showing toward her is what society is trying to throw away because its TRASH!
You are trying to find the wrong in others, instead of, facing the wrong within yourself.
LEAVE SMITH ALONE. THE MONEY SHE'S GOING TO GET ISN'T ANY OF YOURS, SO LET IT BE!!!!!!!!!!!!! ENOUGH WITH ALL THE NEGATIVITY!!!!!!!! FOR GOD SAKE PEOPLE, GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
"Virginia" is not an employee of the Hook and does not have access to IP addresses on this website.
Am I blocked now? My post didnt show up and when I tried to post again it told me it was a duplicate comment yet it never showed up on the site. There was no cursing or anything, just my opinion. Is the Hook practicing censorship on the blogs now?
Virginia, that has happened to me several times. The problem goes away as fast as it shows up. Nothing to lose sleep over, the Internet (and software) is not perfect.
Virginia, I just attempted to post a reply to the Mall Death thread. The reply shot off into outer space somewhere. I had to retype it and submit it again before it showed up. Weird.
Maybe, I know internet and tech and know these things happen but I've tried all afternoon to get my response up and it won't go. i can post to other blogs and even to this one as long as I'm not posting that message. I'm wondering if theres a word count on posts, maybe I'll try splitting it. Don't worry I won't lose any sleep, I'll be in dreamland a few hours from now with no worries :)
I've tried posting my message from earlier at least 20 times now. Tried with different email addys, different browsers, and yes different IP addresses. I have it saved now so I can just copy & paste. I tried splitting it up in case it was a word count thing, I even tried switching the paragraphs around to fool any duplication filters they might have but no go. I either get the "duplicate message" or it just goes back to the page and my reply is nowhere to be seen. The only other thing I can think of is I'm possibly using a word that isn't allowed and they've put a filter on. I may rewrite it tonight just to test that theory.
I'm sorry, once, twice maybe three times I could believe but 20+ is no coincidence! Bet this message goes up ok.
Must be something the Wordpress software is seeing and doesn't like. It's got some strange quirks.
I already stated I don't work for the hook, as to the IP addys, well I'll just leave that alone. If you say I can't then I must not be able to.
Speechless, maybe you need to read what I said again. I wished Charlene the best in her quest, if the allegations are true. That has yet to be proven. I don't feel that I've given Charlene any grief, Kia, yes, Charlene no, and the only reason I did so to Kia was because I thought some of her comments were as racist towards white people as the comments she was speaking out against. I do believe discrimination exists but I believe that applies to more people then just those of African decent.
I stated that I have been discriminated against and was sticking up for my heritage, am I not allowed to do that because I'm white? Thats sure the way it feels nowdays. Or would it be ok for me to start a "White entertainment television" or a "United Caucasian College Fund" What would peoples reactions to that be?? Bet I'd be called a racist or worse. I feel like I'm the one having to defend myself here for feeling that way. Am I not allowed to?
Why is it racist for me to say the laws are overused? I think they are, just as the sexual harassment laws are overused and it's a shame in both cases because when there is truly a case of discrimination or harassment no one cares anymore.
As for it being racist to say that some black people can give all black people a bad name, read further I also said some white people can give all white people a bad name. If I am applying the same example to all races how is that racist. If I was saying all black people are bad and all white are good then it's racist. I'm a bit smarter then that, as I said I've met good and bad in all races that I've encountered.
I do believe the black people who had to fight for their rights would be ashamed of a lot of young black people today. They fought hard to be equal, but whats happening with all the things such as BET and Black history month and such is there's a separation occurring. Again things are becoming black & white, thats not how it was supposed to happen, they wanted their rights, they wanted to be equal, they wanted everyone to be seen as Americans,not as a color. I'm not saying people shouldn't be proud of their heritage, I'm quite proud of mine and think everyone should be proud of where they came from and what their ancestors accomplished. I know mine worked hard to come here and to build something and to become Americans. I'm proud of them, their hard work made me an american. Thats all I want to be, not a spanish american or an irish american not even a caucasian american. That would only cause a separation between people of my heritage and other Americans. It just means when I think about them and what they did it makes me feel good inside, a sense of pride.
My comment at the end wasn't racist either, I just thought it was funny that she claimed a headache from all this after the grief that was given to the guy/gal who said before that they had a headache from it. Read back and you'll see all those things I quoted were things that were said to that person.
So I'll end with the same thing as before, Good luck to Charlene and good luck to WCBR.
It was the word - d-a-m-n! I said it was a d-a-m-n shame, LOL took that out and it went right up! Now that is a d-a-m-n shame!
That's it. I just tested the d-a-m-n system and it didn't post without dashes.
"VIRGINIA" YOU STILL TALKING??? PLEASE, BE QUIET! "SICK OF THE LOCAL RAMBOS", YOU, TOO! GO TO THE NEXT BLOG...
What is the next blog? Can you point me in the right direction while you ease off on the caps lock?