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NEWS- Atheist camp: Teachers buck School Board policy

published June 14, 2007

Some Albemarle teachers recently refused to hand out fliers they consider objectionable, and county school officials complain the controversy over the distribution of religious materials is cutting into instructional time.

The latest flier to fan the church/state flames touts Camp Quest, a residential camp for children of atheists, freethinkers, and humanists held in Ohio and Michigan, according to WorldNetDaily, a top conservative news site. 

"Do I have to send this out?" Diane Behrens says she asked the county attorney. Behrens, who decides what can go home in backpack mail, says she was advised that unless county policy limits distribution to local events, the schools had to send it home.

"That's why," she says, "we're going to revisit our policy on June 14."

It was much easier for her a year ago, when Albemarle prohibited distribution of material that was religious or political. But after a local parent was refused permission to send home a flier for vacation Bible school, the parent contacted the Christian Liberty Counsel, which reminded the Albemarle school district that the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals had ruled that if a school permits fliers about after-school events, it can't discriminate against religious fliers.

Mat Staver, Liberty Counsel founder, stands by that ruling, even if it means sending home atheist camp brochures. He sees it as a freedom of speech issue: parents are free to read the fliers-- or throw them away.

"[Albemarle] can narrow those guidelines to a local event," says Staver. "They don't have to open it up to events in other states.... It should be a local opportunity."

Staver offers up his organization to help the county in crafting its policy.  "[Parents] need to know as much about Good News clubs as about soccer," he says.

"What concerns me the most is if they're going to have a policy that nonprofits can distribute, it's not up to individual teachers to decide," says Veronica Michaelsen, a local woman who put out a flier in December for a Pagan Yule celebration. 

"It bothers me teachers can decide not to distribute what doesn't agree with their personal religious beliefs," says Michaelsen, part of a group called NatureSpirit. "In a public school setting, teachers' personal beliefs shouldn't factor in how policy is enforced."

  The Hook was unable to reach any of the Albemarle teachers who allegedly refused to distribute the fliers. WorldNetDaily reporter Bob Unruh, who did not respond to a request for an interview, wrote that he was contacted by a representative of the dissident teachers, who spoke only on condition of anonymity.

 "We would expect teachers to follow policy," says Albemarle School Board Chair Sue Friedman, who says she received several emails from out of state, and a half dozen from people locally. 

"There are many issues we need to revisit," says Friedman. "What is the best way of being a community partner and sharing information with families? One issue with this flier is the amount of principal and teacher time taken up in dealing with parents."

 While Camp Quest is not local, she compares it to the Boy Scouts: a national organization with a local connection.

Jefferson Park Baptist Church pastor Jeff Riddle wants to know who submitted the flier. "Is it," he asks, "a legitimate organization in the area?" Mary Ellen Sikes might think so.

Sikes, a founder of Central Virginia Secular Humanists, is a volunteer with Camp Quest "who happens to live in a county that allows fliers to be distributed," she explains. She says it took over a month to get the flier approved.

"We were very concerned about the delay and lack of information because we were very careful to meet School Board policy," says Sikes, noting that a disclaimer on the fliers clearly indicates that the county neither paid for nor endorses the flier but is sending it out as a community service. Sikes sees a need for the information about Camp Quest.

"Many freethought parents or parents of a secular world view are isolated and have no idea about resources about that sort of parenting, even though five to 15 percent of the population is nontheistic or secular on some level," she says. "There's a great public mistrust and fear of the nontheistic."

Indeed, despite the playful claim that the camp is "beyond belief," WorldNetDaily quotes the teacher's representative as saying, "I thought this was pretty offensive and pretty outrageous."

Given the percentages of atheists or secular thinkers in the general population, says Sikes, "Those teachers have at least one such child in their classes."

Amanda Metskas, president of the Camp Quest board, defends spreading the word about the Ohio and Michigan camps because children can fly there directly from Charlottesville.

"I don't know if public schools should be sending home fliers for outside organizations," says Metskas. "But if they can, it makes sense for us to take advantage of that opportunity. We have a small budget for promotion."

Pastor Riddle also wonders whether schools should be sending home fliers-- but for another reason.

"These sorts of things indicate that if you send children to the public schools," he says, "you have to accept the radical secular mindset." 

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To call something 'offensive and outrageous' because it promotes an event for those who do not believe in God is itself offensive and outrageous. Throughout, the religious folk seek to demonise secularists - their choice of language is revealing, eg 'radical secular mindset'. Radical? A humanist is RADICAL? One of the definitions of humanist is 'one who is concerned with the interests and welfare of humans'. Isn't that a *good* thing? And isn't the Constitution of the United States built on secular principles, including the separation of church and state? Either send out all leaflets (religious and secular) or send out none at all. But in the end, it should be the parents who decide which leaflets are of interest to them and which are not. If teachers are given the material, they should give it out - it's not their job to censor perfectly valid, harmless material, which has already been vetted and approved for distribution.

posted by Nick Gisburne at 6/14/2007 1:30:25 PM

Nick, I absolutely agree with you. Although our society is (or ought to be) working to eliminate bias, prejudice, and injustice, somehow the abuse of atheists/humanists/freethinkers is not only tolerated -- it is seen as some sort of moral virtue. Theists claim to be holding the moral high ground, but news stories such as this show us how dishonest that is.

posted by Ralph Baergen at 6/14/2007 2:12:56 PM

And let me add that atheists are not all angry, like many theists claim. And radical?? When was the last time an atheist knocked on your door at home to point out to you all of the contradictions, failed prophecies, and "R" rated material that is within it's covers?

posted by Doubting Thomas at 6/14/2007 5:44:58 PM

Dear Teacher,

Please quit worrying about my child's religion. It's none of your business. It's mine. Your business is to teach my child reading, writing, math and science. From the comparisons of US schools' academic achievements to those of the rest of the world, you're not doing a very good job. Perhaps some of the time you spend putting fliers in bookbags and being outraged by their content should be used to work on arithmetic.

Thank you,

Julie's Mother

posted by Outraged Parent at 6/15/2007 10:05:05 AM

Have you ever read any of the articles on world net daily? To a great many people the site is more properly labeled World Nut Daily.

The articles are filled with biased hyperbole, expressing the heights of a virulent conservative ideology, which apparently believes that no vitriol or venom is too horrible for them to fling at those who they fear and hate.

Except among their own "conservative" true believers, I don't know of ANY people who give ANY credibility to ANY of the incredibly ignorant verbiage which spews out of their web site.

posted by Ananta Androscoggin at 6/15/2007 10:10:44 AM

With the state of our public education system today, I don't think advertisements should be sent home by schools in the first place. That a teacher's school time is spent in anything other than educating her/his students is deplorable.

posted by Connecticut Yankee at 6/15/2007 11:06:45 AM

RE: "Staver offers up his organization to help the county in crafting its policy."

Wow, how generous... You mean Falwell's organization would be glad to help Albemarle write their policy? I bet they would!

posted by Lonnie at 6/15/2007 11:44:53 AM

Funny thing this......if a school allows ANY non-profit group, such as the Boy/Girl Scouts or a religious group to send flyers home, then ALL of them must be allowed to go home.

posted by Lowell at 6/15/2007 12:02:56 PM

It's quite sad in this day and age where the intolerance that sweeps this nation - and our world - is generated by fear and ignorance. I am a Neo-Pagan, however, I celebrate the ability of the our nation being able to share its views without restriction. I have many very good friends who are atheists of varying degrees. Whether they are hard or soft atheists makes no difference to me as my beliefs have no baring on their view of me.

I have read many article that describe a segment of the population whose outlook upon our world is tinted by the "Fallwellian" scripture or lack of understanding of the secular. Very few Christians of will look at science and the "theory" of evolution as simply the method of creation. Rather they view it as a tool too undermine their religious system.

How naive are people? It saddens me that there are people who live in our world with such a narrow view on existence. I know evolution is real, I support the rights of human beings (whether its religious, sexual orientation, etc.) as well as the sovereignty of nations. All the while, I am willing to share the valuable space we have on earth with the less educated and blissfully ignorant and sometimes outrageously bigoted.

Now only if we can those people who have so much contempt for others outside of their view to understand the role of acceptance and tolerance. They don't have to agree with other people's ideologies, just accept, "live-and-let-live". Allow their children to go school, learn what the secular world has to offer and worry about teaching them their systems on their time, not the publics tax dollars.

A problem with religion, including mine, is a lack of flexibility and tolerance of others. Though Pagans of many breeds are pretty accepting, they're not immune to the hate that humans breed. Religions teach a way of thought and often leave a person no room to think on their own about the questions that science adequately asks. I feel that science is more often in pursuit of "God" than religion is.

Aside form all of that rhetoric, the question still begs - "What gives these teachers the right to decide what's best for these children outside of Academia?"

posted by Jeff at 6/15/2007 12:44:18 PM

I agree with Connecticut Yankee's comment. The school system is not a post office. It should not be handling any fliers from any group with which it does not have a formal affliation, including the Red Cross, JABA, American Cancer Society, religious groups, summer camps, dog training schools, travel agencies, etc. The system could be held liable for any false or deceptive information that is disseminated by the flier or organization. The involvement of the school system embues trust and endorsement regardless of any perfunctory disclaimer. Otherwise why are they using sweet-faced children? I would award big bucks! children are being exploited by acting as unpaid mail carriers. Change the policy and stop wasting board time on non-educational issues.

posted by Virginia Southerner at 6/15/2007 2:18:15 PM

If the flyers are not directly related to school funcitons, they should not be going out from the school. If church groups or atheist groups want to send out flyers, let them do it on their own dime, not the public taxpayers.

posted by HR at 6/15/2007 8:28:01 PM

when will this non-sense ever end. We live in a country where we have the the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. which includes the right to choose our own spritial belifs. Spritiality is the belief in some thing bigger than ourselfes without preconceived ideas or dogma to cloud the path. Today religion has simply has become a way to conform all people through a set preconceived ideas and dogma. the idea that people should fear God, that they are born wicked sinners, and that only those who accept beliefs that inslave them to a miserable existance are good people are not those of kind compassioned deity. but of those who fear and hate any one who is different. Our counrty was esilbished so that all of us could at last find some peace and freedom from the rigid religous morals but from the begining there has always been those who wanted to subveit our demcracy back to the dark ages when people feared the church's power and burality. Many religous leaders still conceider the inquisition a lawful act. The stuggle for freedom contuines to this very day and frankly i say whats good for the goose is good for the gander send all the fliers home or none of the fliers home. We are who we choose to be! it's better to be hated for who we really are on the inside than be liked for being what other people want us to be.

posted by ander s drake at 6/15/2007 9:06:15 PM

You know what? Let's get rid of all non-school fliers- this is a time consuming divisive issue which distracts the school board from the real and pressing business of educating our children. Surely in this multi-media world, organizations will find other ways to get word out about their programs.

posted by Gail at 6/15/2007 9:36:40 PM

The blogger, Atheist Ethicist, has written a blog about this article:

http://atheistethicist.blogspot.com/2007/06/camp-quest-and-religious-bigotry.html#links

posted by WayBeyondSoccerMom at 6/16/2007 9:35:12 PM

ALBEMARLE, STOP THE NONSENSE! GET BACK ON TASK! CUT ADMINISTRATION. HIRE TEACHERS. FOCUS, FOCUS, FOCUS; READING, WRITING, MATH, SCIENCE, HISTORY, ART - NOT RELIGION, NOT POLITICS, NOT FOOTBALL, NOT BASEBALL, NOT SEX, NOT BACKPACK MAIL. SHAPE UP!

posted by G at 6/18/2007 8:56:56 AM

Once I was of the "tolerant" sort who agreed...fair is fair. But there's been way too much propaganda, brainwashing of youth and nonsense from the left. I say it's time to cut them off completely and get this country back to its Christian values. I don't give a *darn* if you're offended, ticked or otherwise. Get out of my country, you anti-christ heathen or else one day soon we'll take matters into our own hands.

posted by sick and tired at 6/19/2007 7:17:03 PM

It's always a matter of time before some "good christian" like "sick and tired" comes out with their godly threats. Look, fool, it's NOT "your" country. It belongs to ALL Americans. That includes non-Christians AND non-believers. I swore to "preserve, protect, and defend" this country and the Constitution "against all enemies, foreign and domestic", and you certainly seem to fall in that category. So back off and deal with it.

posted by Atheist Patriot at 6/19/2007 7:39:51 PM

I agree, "Sick & Tired" the time for tolerance is over.

I have had a lifetime of being polite about your ignorant superstitions, and I see the Xians brainwashing with propaganda [see film Jesus Camp for some real scary stuff] as far more of a threat. As a born-again Xian [Geo. W] has gotten the New Crusades started in the Middle East.

All you need to do is read Thom. Jefferson on religion to see that this was not a universally Xian nation at founding.

What I what is an end to religious tax exemptions - let's level the playing field.

posted by Reyn at 6/20/2007 11:21:02 AM

Hey, 'sick and tired,' there are two things you should read before posting again.

Those would be the First Amendment, and the Treaty of Tripoli (most notably Article 11).

You might want to read all those important documents that refer to the US as a nation based on freedom, not on tyranny. Making veiled threats is bordering on terrorism, mate.

Personally, I think school advertising is a bit in the grey area, but if they can distribute ads for a Bible Study camp, then it's only fair that Camp Quest be allowed as well.

posted by Johnny Sane at 7/6/2007 10:58:50 AM
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