Was a rapist caught in the act?
A quick-thinking friend, an alert neighbor, and fast-acting Charlottesville police helped end an alleged sexual assault– in progress– happening on Grady Avenue early this morning.
At 1:25am, a female UVA student walking home in the Rugby Road area and talking on her cell phone was assaulted. Hearing the attack begin, her friend called 911, and police immediately began looking for the victim. A second 911 call reporting an assault in the 1600 block of Grady Avenue allowed police to home in on the victim– and on her assailant, who was assaulting her when police arrived but immediately ran from the scene.
Charlottesville Police Officers C. Hockman and J. Carper pursued on foot and apprehended the suspect, 39-year-old Christopher Allen Noakes (pictured here). He has been charged with robbery, attempted rape, forcible sodomy, and abduction and is being held without bond at the Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail.
The victim sustained non-life threatening injuries and remains at UVA hospital.
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http://www.charlottesvillenewsplex.tv/news/headlines/15840577.html
Hey Sick of the Local Rambos…Whad’yya gotta say about that? Apparently there ARE some good cops out there…plenty of them actually!
Way to go guys!
Hhmmm…. let me see? I guess you’re asking for my honest opinion, right? Someody calls the cop shoppe and reports a sexual assault in progress. Cops respond, bless their hearts, and chase/catch the suspect.
I am tickled to death this time to see the headlines not reading “cops sexually assaults woman” on http://www.badcopnews.com . It’s a pleasant change of pace.
Immediately after typing the above reply, I once again visited http://www.badcopnews.com to see the latest reports of bad cops. Surprise, surprise, a police lieutenant with 16 years on the job charged with RAPE!:
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February 21, 2008
ST. JOHN’S PARISH, LOUISIANA - A day after former St. John the Baptist sheriff’s deputy Allan Wayne Schaeffer was released on a $335,000 bond, a state prosecutor is questioning the validity of that bond and is seeking mandatory electronic monitoring during his release.
Schaeffer, 47, a past lieutenant with 16 years on the force, was jailed on charges of aggravated rape, second-degree battery and attempted sexual battery. He was indicted by a state grand jury on Jan. 14, and was released Tuesday from the Sherman Walker Correctional Facility in LaPlace.
WoW! Check this one out!
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February 21, 2008
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA — A Los Angeles School Police Department officer was convicted Thursday of sexually assaulting a 21-year-old woman during a traffic stop.
Ian King, 34, was found guilty in connection with a May 3, 2007, traffic stop of an Orange County woman who was lost near Adams Boulevard and Sycamore Avenue in Los Angeles.
King — who was in uniform in a marked car — told the woman she had made an illegal U-turn and he needed to search her, said Deputy District Attorney Renee Korn.
A passing motorist who saw the officer with his hand up the woman’s skirt wrote down the patrol car’s license plate number and reported the incident to police, the prosecutor said.
The victim also called 911 within about 15 minutes, Korn said.
An eight-man, four-woman jury deliberated about two-and-a-half days before finding King guilty of one count of sexual battery by restraint and two counts each of penetration by a public official and forcible sexual penetration.
The young woman was “incredibly credible” and the evidence against the officer “overwhelming,” Korn said.
“I think justice has truly prevailed here,” she said.
King’s attorney, Bill H. Seki, said he believed the defense had presented evidence that “established reasonable doubt throughout the case” that “collectively raised overwhelming doubt.”
“To the moment I last saw him, (King) maintains his innocence,” he said.
King was charged last May and taken off duty.
“Because of his conviction today, the district will immediately begin an official dismissal process against Mr. King,” said Ellen Morgan, a Los Angeles Unified School District spokeswoman.
King had been free on $250,000 bail, but following the verdict, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Marsha N. Revel ordered him to be taken back into custody.
He faces up to 20 years in prison when he is sentenced March 25.
Sick of Local Rambos:
Please! Get a life. Yeah, you have a right to your opinions and all that crap. But enough, already. It’s getting SO old. We all know how much you hate cops. Nobody’s perfect. There are A LOT of good cops out there as well.
I’m sure you’ll slam this post, and I’m not here to argue with you about it. You’re entitled to your opinions and feelings, but so am I.
luvmycop, what do you think about Illinois copper Drew Peterson who now has 3 dead wives and a fourth wife missing? The third wife’s body was recently exhumed and ruled a homicide. His fourth wife is believed to be hidden somewhere in a 50 gallon drum. Somebody just keeps killing his wives, don’t they? Please don’t luv or marry Peterson. OK? It sounds like a guaranteed death sentence for those who do.
Who are all these incompetent cops who haven’t been able to stop a serial killer? How many more wives will poor little ole Drew Peterson have to lose before this serial killer is captured?
Don’t be so ignorant to think all cops are crooks or great. They are all human and as humans we all make mistakes or have bad judgement. The blue wall keeps the public ignorant and skeptical since cops can and do wrong and their errors are covered up. To act as if they are above the law is their biggest mistake.
Why was not the officer in Shreveport La not charged with assault at the least for cuffing, beating and sending a woman to the hospital with a broken nose and stitches? Why was the ticketing officer not grilled for ticketing Mitchell? Instead we focus on crosswalks. lol
TruthInLies, where have I ever said all cops are bad? I just had a discussion in another topic here on The Hook where I calculated 10% of the 700,000 member law enforcement community is arrested every 7 years. That’s 70,000 cops every 7 years. That’s a pretty scary statistic.
You have now actually helped my cause, namely all the cops who do wrong and it’s swept under the rug. There’s been quite a few cases of this in Charlottesville and Albemarle County recently. This is called The Thin Blue Line. Several decades ago The Thin Blue Line meant so few cops trying to do so much with limited manpower and resources. Nowadays it means cops looking out for and covering for each other.
TruthInLies, what do you think of this husband and wife cop team? I seriously doubt they will be catching any rapists in the act. And there would probably be a delay in their responding to a report of a rape in progress, it might interfere with their personal plans too much:
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February 23, 2008
ALLEGHENY TOWNSHIP, PENNSYLVANIA - Allegheny Township supervisors voted unanimously to fire two township police officers for spending “excessive amounts of time” at their private business or home while on duty.
Supervisors based their decision on evidence presented at a public hearing Jan. 4 showing Robert Salimbene spent about 50 percent of his time at his home on Hilltop Drive or private business, Havana DayDreaming, while on duty as an officer.
His wife, Sandra Salimbene, spent about 25 percent of her time at home or the business while on duty.
Robert Salimbene, an officer for about 17 years, and Sandra, for about five years, were suspended Dec. 11 for neglect of duty.
From Oct. 31 to early December Global Positioning System devices were installed in the department’s cruisers.
The officers submitted daily logs indicating that they were performing routine patrol duties during the periods in question, according to an Allegheny Township news release issued Thursday at the supervisors’ meeting.
At the Jan. 4 hearing, Robert Salimbene said he stopped at home while on duty to check on his 78-year-old mother, but he claimed that he left when he received police calls.
“Neither officer denied spending on-duty time at home but argued that it was necessary to care for a family member,” the release states.
“While this may or may not be true, we all face challenges in our private lives that must be balanced with the obligations of our professional lives. The board of supervisors appreciates the past service of both officers but must take this action in order to maintain respect and confidence in the operation of the Allegheny Township Police Department,” the news release states.
The township hopes to hire two new officers. The township has four full-time and three part-time police officers.
‘‘Down the road, we will definitely need to hire more,” supervisor Donald Fowkes said.
I never said you said that. My point was general in that there are good and bad and to think neither is true is to ignore reality. If you were to seperate 100% clean cops from those who are tainted I’d say most are tainted one way or another. Their code of silence prevents us from knowing but it starts from the top. If they want to protect or fry an officer they will.
As for the 2 officers, I am surprised both were able to work on the same force considering its size unless they were married after they were both officers.
Here you go sick- a Dallas motor officer just killed escorting Clinton’s little motorcade. Would you like to applaud this???
http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa080222_wz_officerhurt.197253ed.html
[...] hours before Charlottesville police stopped a sexual assault in progress in the early morning hours of Thursday, February 21, Albemarle County Police made an arrest of [...]
Thank you Eric.
Being killed while escorting a motorcade is not unusual. It happens all the time. Google it if you don’t believe me. Sooner or later police administrators will figure out a Secret Service motorcade is the last place on earth to put a motorcycle cop. Or maybe they won’t.
Hi Sick, I’m Back. If the average number of cops killed a year is about 170, how do they get killed in motorcades all the time? That number includes gunfire, car accidents, heart attacks, stabbings and many other ways….But to you, it’s “motorcades all the time”. Your numbers are so twisted. If think 70,000 officers have been arrested in the last 7 years you need a mental eval. I’ve asked you several times for your ideas on cleaning up these problems you talk about and you never answer. If it’s so bad, quit bitching and start doing. I’ve got a site for you http://www.odmp.org Read about the men and women killed every week helping others….even people that hate them, people like you.
hey sick, here’s one of your tricks. I’ll post this from the page I look at. The Officer Down Memorial Page Remembers . . .
Police Officer Nicola Cotton
New Orleans Police Department
Louisiana
End of Watch: Monday, January 28, 2008
Biographical Info
Age: 24
Tour of Duty: 2 years
Badge Number: 1869
Incident Details
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Date of Incident: Monday, January 28, 2008
Weapon Used: Officer’s handgun
Suspect Info: Apprehended
Officer Nicola Cotton was shot and killed while attempting to arrest a rape suspect in a parking lot off of Earhart Boulevard.
As she attempted to put a handcuff on the man, who was twice her size, he pulled away and began to struggle. During the struggle she lost control of her radio, but was able to recover it and called for assistance. As the struggle continued the suspect gained control of Officer Cotton’s baton, and struck her with it. He was then able to gain control of her duty weapon and shot her fifteen times.
Responding units arrived at the scene approximately two minutes after Officer Cotton was shot and located the suspect still holding her service weapon. He was taken into custody by the responding officers.
Officer Cotton had served with the New Orleans Police Department for two years and was eight weeks pregnant at the time of her murder.
What do think sick was she breaking the law too?
Don’t even get me started on females being cops, OK? Even the clip you posted clearly explains the problem, “man… who was twice her size.” Ask yourself, would you want your 5′3″ 112 pound sister to be a Virginia state trooper out on Interstate 64 by herself stopping a carload of beligerant drunks at 3:00 a.m. in the morning? Her closest backup might be 12 to 15 minutes away in Albemarle County. They’ll get there about 8 minutes after she is killed.
Before you go off on a tangent, I also don’t think a lot of the midget male rookie rambo cops we see far too often nowadays should be cops either. They all seem to have the typical Napolean attitudes which is certainly understandable. Nor the ones who look like they have been eating dounts for 35 years nonstop.
See? I don’t discriminate. Ban female cops, ban midget Napolean cops, and ban fat cops… that’s my motto. I’m not trying to be insulting, these are justs facts of life as mean as people are getting nowadays.
I like the police. I want them having my back. I want them well payed and respected. I want them to feel like all good citizens are happy that they are present. That having be said,I think that the only way for that to be achieved is for police to stop covering up for the assholes among them. I think that if the Good cops DEMANDED a clean department they would get it. I like the youtube accountability factor and I think that ten years from now cops will have a better reputation than they do now because of it. An honest man is unafraid of scrutiny.
sheep dog, If I think 70,000 officers have been arrested in the last 7 years I need a mental evaluation? I have told you where to find the proof, http://www.badcopnews.com . And add into their daily reports all the bad cops who are swept under the rug and hidden from the media so as to avoid embarrassment to the agencies. And add in all the cops who commit crimes that are never detected as well.
I wish the American public would stop sticking their head in the sane anytime somebody mentions crooked corrupt lying cops.
Let’s play your game though, just for the sport of it. Let’s say just 10 cops a day are arrested nationwide. I think we can very easily agree on 10 cops being arrested nationwide every day. That’s 3,650 a year, or 25,550 every 7 years. And trust me, this is a very very low estimate. Don’t you think this nation has a very serious problem even if only 3,650 cops a year get arrested? And most of the time it’s officers who have 15 to 25 years on the job. How much crime have they committed before finally being caught up in their crimes?
Office Obie, I agree with you 100%. Well said.
let’s say your latest figures are correct. One cop breaking the law, caught or not, is one too many. Please tell me how to fix it. The bottom line is this….a certain percentage of the public is corrupt, if you hire cops from the public you will get some corrupt cops. You can give all the polygraphs, written tests, pysch tests, you want they are going to get through. But you have it good around here compared to alot of other places. My problem isn’t that you hate cops…it’s that you and some others don’t believe cops until they bust another cop then they’re right. Also…if your numbers are right I don’t see any cover up, because the cops are getting busted. It’s just not at the level you think it is. As matter of fact, I know of cops being investigated on items that never would have raised an eye brow if a citizen did it. And if they didn’t do it..too late, they’re rep is gone and so is the job they loved.
Now…I’m very confused about your ban list. You complain about these Rambo’s, but you only want big muscle bound kick ass men to be cops. I’m sure you have figured out by now, I’m a cop. (near the area, not in it) I work with great cops that are females and males of all sizes. It’s the size of the heart that counts. I’ve seen big men of all professions run and small women get the job done no matter what. In case you didn’t notice all the donut shops around here went out of business.
You are right about one thing though…no matter how much I love my job I wouldn’t want any of my children doing it EVER!
I’ve succeeded in lighting Sicks fuse as you all can see. Again, there ARE bad cops just as there are bad priests,like ol’ limpin’ Rodney Rodis. But the large bulk of them are good and decent people doing a hard job that very few want to do nowadays. Charlottesville and Albemarle are blessed to have many good folks on their departments and Longo in particular takes a hard line on misbehavior, that is PROVEN misbehavior, not based on some rantings by people like Sick who don’t have all the facts. Bye Sick.
I think sick just wants to be the center of attention here. There are bad cops and there are elite cops. Any profession has “bad apples”. Typically they give the “bushel” a bad name. I am not going to address “sick” specifically b/c I think he or she is tormented by something that happened in the past.
I like what you have to say jeeperman…Hey if ya screw up you have to pay the consequences regardless of who you are, what gender or what race.
I think the police here are a great bunch of people. I am not one to throw stones, we have all made mistakes.
Lets wait for the court’s answer shall we?
Sheepdog - You are right on too.
Bye, Jeeperman.
quote: “…And if they didn’t do it..too late, they’re rep is gone…”
Sheep Dog, believe it or not, you’re getting real warm to my frustrations. Hell no, much more than warm, you’re on fire bro! You can’t restore a person’s reputation once stupid corrupt cops screw it up.
We’ll have to disagree on the several varieties of cops though. Unlike yourself, I don’t have to be politically correct and claim a midget cop can do the job correctly. As I said above, your own imported tale of the little girl cop getting killed proves this point. There used to be height and weight requirements to be a cop in this nation.
You’ll love my book when it’s published in a few years. It will have quite a few characters in it that I am absolutely sure you will personally know.
Some of you might enjoy knowing that http://www.badcopnews.com was once again compromised in the last day or so. There are special little people all over the U.S.A. trying to hack, compromise, destroy and have the network closed down permanently so citizens can’t see how large the crooked corrupt lying cop problem is nationwide.
There won’t be much posted there for a day or two. They will come back strong, just like they always do. I really should jump in and help them administer and secure the site. :)
I’m letting Sicks twisted mind have the last word, so all you folks can see just how incredibly filled with hate he is. You need to chill man before you blow a vessel. Bye Sick
Sick,
You can’t restore a cops reputation either after the public screws it up by calling for blood when the situation hasn’t even gone to court yet. You say the system doesn’t work but you won’t let it work. You’ve already screwed with it before it had a chance to work. Why is it in your mind that everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but police are guilty until proven innocent and then they are still guilty.
Sick,
Like I pointed out before I checked out badcop.com. The problem with that sight is it shows when an officer was charged, but if the officer is proven innocent then it doesn’t say anything. It mentions the game warden in greene county being charged. If keep looking through the articles it never shows the charges being dismissed. That is commonly refered to a bias.
I also like your nazi rant about not liking women or short people who are police officers. I guess they also have to be blonde haired and blue eyed or you don’t like them. Now we know why you wouldn’t or should I say couldn’t be a police officer. I first thought you were crazy now I know that you just discriminate.
Sick, feel as you do, it’s the best thing about his country. You can feel any way you want no matter how wrong you are. I’ll tell you this though…I don’t care if the officer next to me is a midget, female, black, white, gay, or what ever, if they have the heart to do the job and stand up against bullies to keep there fellow citizen as safe as possible then so be it. If your saying in some way that female officer got herself killed your a cold person and I feel for you. I’ll post one more and see what you have to say about him. I believe your the person that calls 911 as soon as some says BOO to you. And if are that person, it okay, I still want to help you. Take care buddy, I think we have beat this topic to death.
Police Officer Tom Ballman
Kirkwood Police Department
Missouri
End of Watch: Thursday, February 7, 2008
Biographical Info
Age: 37
Tour of Duty: 11 years
Badge Number: Not available
Incident Details
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Date of Incident: Thursday, February 7, 2008
Weapon Used: Gun; Unknown type
Suspect Info: Shot and killed
Officer Tom Ballman and Sergeant William Biggs were shot and killed when a suspect opened fire at a Kirkwood city council meeting. The man had held a grudge against the city council for several years and had filed several lawsuits against the city.
The suspect approached Sergeant Biggs across the street from the city hall and asked him what time the meeting started, then pulled out a handgun and fatally shot him in the head. The man then took Sergeant Biggs’ service weapon and walked across the street into the city hall.
When he entered the council chambers, he approached Officer Ballman, who was sitting in the front of the room, and also fatally shot him in the head. The man then opened fire on the other occupants of the room, killing two council members and the director of public works before being shot and killed by two other officers.
Officer Ballman had served with the Kirkwood Police Department for 9 years and had previously served with the St. Charles County Sheriff’s Office for 2 years. He is survived by his wife and two children.
OH…I’m still waiting on those ideas of yours on how to make things better.
Hhmmm… you’re still waiting on those ideas of mine on how to make things better. OK. You’re saking for my opinions, you shall have them.
1- Raise the hiring standards for law enforcement at least back to their former levels of a few decades ago. How did lowering standards benefit the civilian population nationwide? The only thing this accomplished was broadening the applicant pool, and this was NOT a good thing.
2- Have the same physical agility testing and requirements for both female and male law enforcement applicants. Once again, based on your imported tale, the female officer who was killed could not physically handle her assailant with any means available to her. Her radio was taken away from her. Her baton was taken away from her. And her gun was taken away from her, at which time she was shot 15 times.
3- Get rid of all the little Napoleon type cops who have to make up for their own shortcomings by brutalizing people with batons and tasers.
4- Bring back minimum height and weight requirements for law enforcement officers. You said you are a cop, you should know firsthand that you now have dual duties and responsibilities when responding to a call and your backup is 5′3″ and 112 pounds. You must control the actual scene and combatants, while also protecting your smaller counterpart. I do not expect you to agree with this because you must remain politically correct in your line of employment. I can speak freely.
5- Do not allow law enforcement agencies to investigate their own officer’s alleged wrongdoings. What kind of results can we really expect when the Charlottesville Police Department investigates one of their own for almost running over two people in a crosswalk?
How are these suggestions for a start?
You have some good points, but I’m not sure we’re on the same page. Hiring standards in this area are pretty good, but I’m talking about written testing and background checks. I think your talking about height and weight. It’s about training sick, the officers you think are too small or female can do the job. I’m 5′11″ and about 215lbs. Could stand to lose 20, I run a mile in about 7 min 50 sec. Not the greatest, but not bad and in my early 40’s. I still run into guys taller, bigger and stronger. I have won the battles so far, but I don’t know what the future holds. Most of battles are won verbally. These other cops win them too no matter what there sex or size.
In other areas standarsd have been dropped. Richmond City will now allows applicants that have admitted to cocaine use as along as it hasn’t been with in 5 years. That’s ridiculous, but they have to just to get applicants. I don’t know what the answer is
Physical agility tests….you are right 100% They are the same around here, but it’s not much of a test.
Cops have to be investigated by cops. Only cops can understand why they have to react the way they do. I don’t know what you do for a living, but I’m sure I couldn’t tell you how to do it or why you do it a certain way. Maybe an independant agency of cops is an answer. Sick, I actually like our debates.
Sheep dog, I enjoy our debates as well. I really am glad, for whatever reason, that I don’t seem to push your buttons like I do a few others around these parts. Some people don’t seem to be able to discuss certain issues intelligently. It seems their attitude is especially bad when discussing any cop shoppe. If they can’t control their anger in a discussion forum, just imagine them answering domestic calls or coming across one of these people who claim to know their rights when stopped out on the street. A true recipe for wrongful actions and lawsuits on their behalf.
We’re the same size. But I don’t kid myself. I need to lose a minimum of 30 pounds. I don’t run at all any longer. Have asthma. And I have gotten lazy with age.
I heard the Virginia State Police have lowered drug use standards too. I was told 2 years for marijuana use, 5 years for cocaine and heroin. Sad state of affairs!
We all understand cops have to investigate cops. This is not even an issue. But to use the same example again, when a Charlottesville Police officer is accused of wrongdoing and reactly harshly for no reason after almost running over 2 citizens, it needs to be investigated by somebody/anybody other than Longo and his cronies. The Mitchell wheelchair affair needs to be investigated by someboy other than the city and county police as well. What’s the answer? Perhaps call in the Virginia State Police. Like Terry Hawkins did when several of his deputies were accused of misappropriating a person’s goods and chattels into their own possession. You simply bring in an investigator from another part of the state that does not know all of the local actors on a first name basis.
armchair quarterback, I’m sorry. I have been busy today and haven’t answered your questions or responses. It’s the same for cops and civilians. Once accused you can never undo the damage. Neither cops or civilians are innocent until proven guilty. It’s quite the opposite nowadays because of the expanded media coverages available, including the Internet of course. There is one major difference though. When a cop or prominent civilian (as in well known) is charged with a crime locally, it makes front page news. When the cop is cleared of wrongdoing, it also makes the front page sometimes. But when the civilian is cleared of all wrongdoing, it makes page 2 or 3, if at all. In one particular case I recall well recently, where an ex-cop was charged with a crime, it made front page in the newspaper and leading slot on all of the local TV news broadcasts. After the criminal charge was laughed out of court by the judge, it wasn’t reported by any news outlet except Channel 16 and reporter Vincent Blandin. Anybody not seeing the Channel 16 followup would assume the ex-cop was eventually tried in a court of law and convicted.
This my friend is also why you don’t see http://www.badcopnews.com reporting the outcome of a lot of the cases they post. An exonneration of all charges often does not get media coverage. Some do, but most don’t. And they try to accurately report on the charges that are dismissed, even if it is a sarcastic report where they make ir clear they feel the officer is still guilty.
quote, armchair quarterback: “Now we know why you wouldn’t, or should I say couldn’t, be a police officer.”
Those who have figured out who I am are laughing at you now.
Wow sick your showing your age when you bring up the affair about Hawkin’s deputies. That IS a case that proves your point. People tried to smooth that over twice before the a state sent an investigater that had any knowledge of civil process. Those guys were found not guilty, how I have no idea. The victim continually complaining kept that case going.
You don’t push my buttons at all. I’ve been a cop for over 16 years, I don’t think my buttons move in anymore. No matter how much I disagree with someone, I always remember challenge keeps us all from becoming complacent.
Well, it was a little more involved than that. The first time the Virginia State Police investigated the allegations, local trooper J. B. Watson did the investigation (He’s now retired and working at the Greene County Sheriff’s Office). He was obviously on a first name basis with all the accused and Sheriff Hawkins. It was no surprise when J. B. Watson found no wrongdoing. The family kept raising hell until a second investigation was done by the Virginia State Police, at which time an investgator who didn’t know all the local actors on a first name basis came in to do the investigation. As a result of the charges placed after this second investigation, and while all charges were eventually dismissed, the deputies involved will always be remembered as the guys who stole the personal property of a civilian. Especially since one of them took a camera belonging to the guy on vacation with him. I have a hard time classifying them as crooked corrupt lying cops though. Because their actions involved personal property only. They werent exactly raping people, brutalizing people, preying on female teenagers, or maiming and killing people while driving drunk both on duty and off duty. Their only crime was *bad judgement* in how exactly to handle what they classified as abandoned property. If *bad judgement* were a serious crime punishable by 20 years in prison, every cop in Charlottesville and Albemarle County would presently be in jail most likely.
Having said all of the above, and my using local examples, you might ask what exactly is my definition of a crooked corrupt lying cop? A “crooked corrupt lying cop” is one who falsely arrests a subject and then lies like a dog when the stuff hits the fan. Especially when they do it on more than one occasion. A “crooked corrupt cop” is one who solicits juveniles on the Internet for sex. He couldn’t deny it, so he therefore did not lie about it. A “crooked corrupt cop” is also one who leads his own department on a high speed pursuit and crashes his personal car while off duty. And the taxpayers (and Longo) continue to pay this person and entrusts him to lead the young troops. Pretty sad, eh? A “crooked” cop is one who simply steals a quart of city/county motor oil and puts it in their personal car. While it’s a miniscule crime, it’s still a crime. And while I am not sure what to call the following, a borderline example of crooked & corrupt is a cop who goes to the same 7-Eleven store every morning just to get a free cup of coffee. He’s not going in with the intention of offering the store extra patrol or security, he’s there for personal gain only. This is a personal gain of at least $360.00 a year based on a $1.50 cup of coffee twenty work days per motnh in a year.
My last off-the-wall paragraph certainly poses a good question too. Why do all city and county employees not get free coffee? The public works employee who fixed a 4″ deep pothole the other day means more to me than somebody riding around in a uniform all day listending to My Humps on the radio. :)
I’m almost impressed. You almost write like you know J. B. Watson. You at least know that he retired and went to the Greene County Sherrif’s Office. Hell, I don’t even remeber the Hawkins incident and I’ve been around quite a while. The Virginia State Police will not hire you with any felony, drug, domestic or DUI conviction, they will also not hire you if you have ever admitted to using anything other than Marijuana. I have a good friend who just went through their academy.
This is why I don’t really place a lot of emphasis on replying to you, armchair quarterbacks. You don’t want a debate or intelligent discussion, you simply want a battle of wits. And we all know the “unarmed” jokes that go along with the mention of a battle of wits, don’t waste your time.
You must have a very very bad memory if you have been around “quite a while” and don’t recall the Hawkins incident.
Is there a problem with my knowing J. B. Watson? I probably knew Watson when you were still in diapers and eating food out of little glass jars. Furthermore, he was in a very bad situation when he worked this area and was asked to investigate local cops. The Virginia State Police should have used better judgement in assigning somebody to investigate the Hawkins caper. Don’t even try to put your usual spin on this as if to say I was speaking badly of J. B. Watson, OK?
Virginia State Police…. I never said a single word about a “conviction”. I very clearly said “drug use”. You and your friend are both wrong about their standards. But following the same line of disucssion, did you know several decades ago they wouldn’t even hire people who lived in trailer courts or those who drove sports cars? (And no, before you burp out implications here, I never lived in a trailer court and I never applied for employment with the Virginia State Police)
Sheep Dog, enjoying your banter with sick. Crooked people should do time, cops and others. How about our crooked court system? Gee, is there divine justice in Charlottesville? I agree with your comments about the death penalty.
Keep up the discussion it is being admired by many…
ArMchair is right about the state standards. They have not lowered. Sick, I’m a little impressed, now confused. How can you describe all those things as being criminal acts and then say those three deputies used bad judgement. You definetly have some age on you, we may even know each other. I do need to make some corrections though. It was unfair to ask J B Watson to investigate that, but there were three investigations not two. Another local investigator was put in a bad situation also and found no wrong doing. He happened to be best friends with one of the accused.
I’m not sure how you can say it was bad judgement, When your certified as a civil process server you know you are not ever entitle to any property set out on an eviction. You can’t touch it if your a sheriff’s deputy in Virginia or any person involved with the eviction. Let’s not forget that one of those men testified he never had that camera even though multiple people heard him complaining that it didn’t work while he was in Hawaii. I will tell you one thing. I will take up for cops to the end, but I have no use for a lier in court. no matter what the profession. I find it very interesting you take up for these three, and left out the other investigation. Maybe you hate cops because you were one and was fired, who knows. Did you ever run for sheriff about 8 years ago?
Lux et Veritas, I develop a fan club everywhere I go on the Internet. It’s not easy. Requires a great deal of thought and effort.
Sick, you conceited little cop hater, Veritas is talking to me not you. LOL. I’m just starting my internet fan club.
Sheep Dog, I told you once before, get your stuff together in the proper usage of “your” and “you’re”. I’m willing to write off “lier” as a typo. The other looks terrible in police reports. :)
Nope, not a fired cop. And I can’t recall a fired cop who ran for sheriff 8 years ago in Charlottesville or Albemarle? Was there one?
An older veteran trooper told me applicants were now being considered for employment as long as they have not USED marijuana in the 2 years prior to applying, and have not USED heroin and cocaine 5 years prior to applying. I am not sure where the trooper got this misleading information from if it is not accurate.
I do not recall three investigations in the Hawkins affair. Maybe there were. The case wasnt a simple eviction. The debtor’s property had been seized to satisfy an outstanding judgement. I do recall the complainant in the misappropriated property, a/k/a the debtor, disappeared for a long time after his property had been levied upon. None of the deputies knew how to get in touch with him. And none of the deputies seemed to know how to proceed from that point on, or so it seems. This is where the bad judgement came into play. They did something with all of the property, but it wasn’t what they were suppose to do with it. (As you say, what they did with the property still seems to be in dispute)
Sheep Dog, face it, I am the only one around these parts that people keep calling out! If I don’t make a comment in a timely fashion, people invite me to. :)
Sick, you appear to be maybe a writer or lawyer? News person?
Sheep Dog, not sure where the confusion came into play. I am definately a fan of what you stand for in your commentary. I know that you said you are in law enforcement but not local; however i would call 911 if I knew you would be responding.
To make you feel better I do know the difference between your and you’re and my reports reflect that. You have a great knowledge of that case. I’m sure then you also know guns must be seized during an eviction or levy if the person is not there to claim them. Seized guns should be entered in a property or evidence locker, not sold to a felon. As you can see I’m a slick talker. I have YOU taking up for three cops that were charged with crimes. I will add, they were and are nice guys. I will take credit for getting you to stand up for the three cops.
IS EVERYONE SEEING THIS!!!!!!!!!!!! SICK LOVES THE PO PO
Let’s keep a list as we go along:
“Writer”: Well, yes. I am writing a book. But it is not what puts the bread and butter on the table at the present time. It will be along the same lines as John Grisham’s “The Innocent Man”. Just as I thought I was approaching the last chapters in my mind, along came another startling conspiracy and coverup. Absolutely perfect timing.
“Lawyer”: No
“News Person”: No
“Ex-cop”: No
“Sheriff’s Candidate”: No
Fired cop running is wrong, I should have said encouraged to retire. He didn’t have much of a campaign though.
The hook should give us or own little column to debate these issues.
You two should be on Oprah or Larry King Live! LOL!
Sheep Dog, you will have to trust me on this… because I am not going into the fine details for obvious reasons. I know a lot of the politics taking place in the background during these investigations, charges and trials. This is the only reason I feel the boys weren’t quite as guilty as everyone would like to think they are. And I thought I was clear in saying that bad judgement does not necessarily negate a crime. But in this case the politics and the bad judgement…. well, that’s all I can say.
A cop encouraged to retire, and then ran for sheriff? Where? What jurisdiction? I can not recall this in Charlottesville or Albemarle 8 years ago. The democratic candidate in Charlottesville always runs unopposed, this is history. And I don’t recall any former cop running in Albemarle County.
One of the men we’re talking about G.K. He could retire at anytime though. May have been 12 year, I think 8 though. You said you were never a cop, how about a deputy, in case we’re splitting hairs.
G.K. running for sheriff seems like 12 years ago, but would you believe it 16 years ago? Time flies when we’re all having fun:
“Robb, who faced Democrat Curtis Byers and independents Donnie Dunn and George Knight, received 9,407 votes - about 47 percent of those voting. Byers, trailing second, garnered 39 percent of the vote 7800. Knight picked up 2,406 votes; Dunn, 335″.
(Peter Savodnik, The Daily Progress, November 3, 1999)
Had George and Donnie not thrown their hats in the ring Curtis Byers would have beat Robb I think. I’m almost certin of it. And if that had happened Chip Harding would not be the current sheriff most likely. But we’ll never know now. I think you might see the same problem in the next city sheriff’s race as well, too many people tossing their hats in the ring and splitting the vote. But it’s long overdue in the city anyway. While candidates have been opposed at the Democratic nomination, none have been opposed in the actual race since the Mayflower came over. :)
And no, I was not one of the deputies.
I stand corrected, just remembered something. Russell Marshall most certainly did run against Bubba Rittenhouse for the position of city sheriff. But Bubba was running as a democrat, which historically helps a candidate slip into office in the city. Then Bubba wanted to run the jail. And a short while later Bubba wanted to be the police chief. It seemed like he never could make up his mind what he really wanted to do. Now since retiring, Bubba has devoted his time to trying to prevent a motorcross trial from going in across the street from where he currently lives in Fishersville now. And the last I heard he and a neighbor fireman were fueding. I hope I can find more enjoyable hobbies when I totally retire soon.
Not one of those deputies, okay. Does the phrase sick building syndrome mean anything to you?
Sure does. Wasn’t that back when they kept opening and closing the county courthouse because it was making people sick? That’s been at least 15 years ago. One of the clerk’s employees was pregnant and had to quit her job ( or work from home ??) for the safety of her unborn baby. A deputy sheriff ended up in the hospital with a lung infection. The janitor John Nightengale died of cancer, this being shortly after they found cancer causing carcinogens growing in the ventilation system near the Sheriff’s Office. Retired Sheriff Carlton Baird also died of cancer. Bubba Rittenhouse sat in his office all day with the windows open for his own personal safety, but damn the other employees who didn’t have access to fresh air, see image link below. And of course the county denied the building was responsible for making anybody sick, their usual MO.
Sick Building Syndrome image
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/194/510/224615.jpg
huh, yeeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhh. One deputy kept falling asleep in court and said the building was sick. It was the city court.
So it was only one person getting sick? That’s interesting.
I didn’t say he got sick, I said he kept falling asleep.
I don’t understand. Is this one person falling alseep the reason they closed and re-opened the courthouse many times?
By the way, saw my first black $ white city police car today. They’re hitting the streets. So I have a new name for them, “LAPD wannabes”. :)
I can’t disagree with the new nick names, they won’t even give the officers the toughbook laptops, but they’ll pay for new markings.