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‘As soon as possible’: Amtrak seeks new NYC train

by Hawes Spencer
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Charlottesville’s #1 passenger rail promoter was hoping that Amtrak would take the idea of a daily train to Washington and roll with it. But Amtrak went further than Meredith Richards was expecting. The quasi-public passenger rail company released a report Tuesday signaling its desire to add a new daily train that would roll not just to Washington but all the way to New York. And back.

“I’m just thrilled,” says Richards, who heads the cvillerail.org advocacy group. “Amtrak said we’re the easiest corridor to add service to and at the lowest cost and in the shortest time, and they said, ‘Go for it.’”

The proposed train– whose southern terminus would be an hour south of Charlottesville in Lynchburg– would increase the number of passenger trains stopping in Charlottesville by about 70 percent. According to the suggested schedule, travelers could board in Charlottesville at 6:13am and arrive in Washington by 8:40am and reach New York’s Penn Station by 12:40pm. The southbound trip would leave New York at 12:05pm and pull into Charlottesville at 7:09pm. (It’s an hour faster on Saturdays.)

All this convenience comes at a cost, however. Although widely touted as the greenest form of inter-city travel, rail doesn’t offer a built-in subsidy (such as a fuel or gate taxes to cover the costs of highways and airports). And based on an initial ridership level of 33,100 passengers, Amtrak estimates the needed annual subsidy would be about $1.9 million. Where will that come from?

Richards isn’t sure. On the day after the report was released, she found herself in Richmond lobbying to ease the rules for tapping into the state’s new $23 million dedicated rail fund. Yet she thinks the bill she supports, S.B. 371, won’t win the support of the current administration. She’s cautiously holding out hope that the state’s own rail plan, a consultant-written document due for release this summer, can somehow urge officials to open state coffers.

If she succeeds, Virginia would join 14 other states that have recently begun subsidizing Amtrak rail service based on the belief that trains cut emissions, reduce congestion, and even stimulate pedestrian-oriented development.

Subsidies, however, can create unhappiness, particularly when private enterprise has already leapt into the breach. Four years ago, a pair of Charlottesville businesspeople launched The Starlight Express, a Charlottesville-New York service that now has grown from a lone weekly round-trip motorcoach to about 10 departures and arrivals each week.

“I’m not going to worry myself about it,” says David New, co-founder of the Starlight Express. “Our whole country lacks adequate public transportation, so I kind of welcome it in the big scheme of things.”

Wrinkles in the Amtrak plan remain. For starters, the report also names another “short-term action opportunity”: a Washington-Newport News link that’s estimated to carry more passengers and would compete for equipment and funding with the Piedmont corridor. However, only the route through Charlottesville won Amtrak’s recommendation that the state start “as soon as possible.”

In other words, says Richards, “Amtrak is ready when the state is ready to go.”

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  • Outskirts Guy January 31st, 2008 | 7:02 pm

    I’ll be on the first one that rolls through town. Let’s go baby.

  • MM February 1st, 2008 | 7:41 am

    This is fantastic! I hope it happens!

  • phonypony February 1st, 2008 | 10:23 am

    I don’t get the news, had the service stopped? Hasn’t this been the schedule for eons?

  • hawes February 1st, 2008 | 11:22 am

    Indeed, one can already get to New York daily on the Crescent (which connects the Big Apple to the Big Easy) and Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday on the Cardinal (which connects New York to Chicago). The proposed train would simply add another option that stretches only from Virginia to New York.

    Two of the main complaints currently facing Amtrak are the infrequency of service and the difficulty obtaining tickets for short hops— the latter due to Amtrak’s policy of declining to sell tickets for shorter trips that might preclude long-haul travelers from getting a seat. The proposed train seems to answer both of those criticisms.

    —Hawes Spencer, Hook journalist

  • Outskirts Guy February 1st, 2008 | 2:01 pm

    The other problem with the Katrina to Apple train is that it is often late…an hour…four hours…or ten hours.

    Having a daily would really rock. Think of the new commuters between here and DC. Lots of three day weekends in NYC (much cheaper if you sleep on the sidewalk). C-Ville would get lots of new people moving here, so property values would shoot up. The village would then pull in more taxes.

    A big win for everyone.

  • phonypony February 1st, 2008 | 3:22 pm

    ah-ha, YEAH! I’ve been one of those folks stuck waiting, and waiting, and waiting… hopefully this means less crowded trains as well. Getting on a car where everyone else had been sleeping and eating for days was kind of grim.

  • R. Paul Brier February 1st, 2008 | 10:41 pm

    MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO RIDE BOTH METHODS OF TRANSPORT TO NY CITY, AND, BY FAR, WE CHOOSE THE STARLIGHT EXPRESS. HOWEVER, THE BIG ADVANTAGE SEEMS TO US TO BE THE REVERSE ANGLE, PEOPLE FROM THE NORTHERN TRAIN ROUTE COMING TO CHARLOTTESVILLE FOR A FEW DAYS, A WEEK, OR - WHO KNOWS? THAT IS A BIG BOOST TO THE LOCAL AREA. FULL SPEED AHEAD!

  • Garland24503 February 2nd, 2008 | 1:28 am

    “The proposed train– whose southern terminus would be an hour south of Charlottesville in Lynchburg– would increase the number of passenger trains stopping in Charlottesville by about 70 percent.”

    Don’t stop at Lynchburg! Send it on to train-hungry Roanoke!!!
    The Radford, Va Tech crowd would thank you, too!

  • Johnjteeee February 2nd, 2008 | 10:45 pm

    This Bill SB 371 needs some support before we start dreaming of weekends in the Big Apple. Granted I would like to be able to hop aboard and see some top knotch artwork up in SoHo, NoHo and all the museums up north but we need a way to let the legislature that we’re behind this daily shuttle before we start counting Kosher hotdogs and blitzes.

  • Outskirts Guy February 5th, 2008 | 10:44 pm

    Face it…this is the village. We will never get a train up to NYC in my lifetime. Although we are supposed to have dreams…right?

    No smoking in restaurants/bars. Power that stays on when the wind blows. HD on local channels. I used to love to dream…but the village has sucked it out of me.

  • M February 5th, 2008 | 10:54 pm

    Outskirts guy, if you hate it here that much, why haven’t you gone back to wherever you came from? Does the economy there suck so bad you can’t find a job?

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